Liberals looking at all out handgun/assault rifle ban!

It's nice to see that my reasons for not getting into shooting in the late 80's / early 90's are coming back at me in a larger form with the current idiots making noise and bans/law/regulations in 2018. Guess the time WASN'T right.
 
Join the CCFR, they're the most vocal proponents of our sport IMO.
I'm fine with the other orgs too, but the CCFR is very savvy with its public and media presence.
My voice, by itself, amounts to little. I feel like the CCFR is a megaphone for our collective voices.

And yes, write Lib MP's, the PMO, Goodale, Blair, etc. so they know they're stirring up a hornet's nest. Remind them how the LGR worked out for their political prospects...

Get on social media and boards - (politely) disagree with the anti-gun folks, and correct the spread of misinformation like this "50% of crime guns are domestically sourced" crap.
(BTW, I was also really pleased when I read the comments on a CBC article about these possible bans...mostly very anti-Liberal and very anti-gun-ban posts.)

And join the Conservative Party. A united front is the only hope. The Libs must be, at least, reduced to a minority govn't next year.
 
Nerdito said:
This time it will cost two billion dollars...

The Conservatives' chances of getting elected just got better.
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The turd already burnt 4.5 billions, at this point, it not a few more that will make the difference...
 
Its been an interesting week. The Libs have had the equivalent of a prison love story (in an overcrowded shower room) this week. NAFTA, TransMountain...Libtards been getting it balls deep. I suspect that talk of a gun ban now, which is something the rural caucus is afraid of, will not be pushed by Turd's liberal minders. Last week he was emboldened by Bernier's bonehead move to split the Cons. This week is a whole new week, lads. Keep the pressure up and see where it takes us.

And vote CPC...whilst I don't disagree with much of Bernier's platform, we need unity to defeat the libs, then can sort out the infighting.
 
No it wont be, the lib's believe they have the vast majority of public opinion and the youth on their side to implement very far reaching gun banning legislation, from many that I have spoken too I believe they have them too, add to that the simple fact that Canadians are not Americans, while Americans will fight tooth and nail and die for the causes they believe in, Canadians are mostly more worried about what they will personally lose to ever consolidate and unite against governing oppression.

Just like Europe and Australia, Canadians have become very soft overindulged fat-cats who are addicted to the good life and will sacrifice all down to the future of their first born to preserve their stuff and their excessive and over indulgent way of life, the proof of this is in how easily we allow the liberals to wast and squander future generations through their over spending and taxation all in the name of the common good, Canadians have gone way too far down the path of governing restriction to ever come back from the road they have allowed to be forced onto them.
 
There are about 2 million registered firearms owners, all of then adults, employed, many with families. They vote disproportionately in elections, and as opinion leaders in their families, they influence upwards of 3.5 million voters. That's a lot of clout. I think government will try and find a balance between the views of residents of major cities, who are somewhat represented by city councils, and need to preserve seats. On balance firearms owners are far more likely to vote against government than people are likely to get out and vote for a ban, the vast majority of whom have never been victim of gun violence. I think the Liberals will will shy away from an outright ban. In addition, I suspect the results of the study will not support an outright ban.
 
Redmaple said:
There are about 2 million registered firearms owners, all of then adults, employed, many with families. They vote disproportionately in elections, and as opinion leaders in their families, they influence upwards of 3.5 million voters. That's a lot of clout. I think government will try and find a balance between the views of residents of major cities, who are somewhat represented by city councils, and need to preserve seats. On balance firearms owners are far more likely to vote against government than people are likely to get out and vote for a ban, the vast majority of whom have never been victim of gun violence. I think the Liberals will will shy away from an outright ban. In addition, I suspect the results of the study will not support an outright ban.
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That was the opinion of Australian and British gun owners as well, they were wrong and so are you, and although it may not be a complete ban, history is not on our side, and if not now before the next general, it will surely follow after the next one gun banning legislation will follow shortly after their almost guaranteed win, and you can bank on that happening.
 
My old friend said many many years ago.

The day will come when all firearm ownership comes to a end in Canada.

The governments are crafty as they set the stage for things to happen, it sways the mind set of citizens to choose a side.

Then they blame the people for the problem,,, the next step is to put restrictions in place,,, banned items, then slowly over time they continue to take small chunks peace by peace.

This game was started long ago as those with power and control govern the out come.

It is called dictator-ship.

It is alive and well in what we call the free world,,, only problem is that the USA has a system in place,,, all the other countries on planet do not.

Canada is one of those that is in the later part of the group.

A man-date will come as the game continues, this is not only in the firearm world,,, the system will also play into the wealth and lively-hood of its citizens too.

Most likely wrong as normal, at least I hope I'm !!!
 
Makava said:
That was the opinion of Australian and British gun owners as well, they were wrong and so are you, and although it may not be a complete ban, history is not on our side, and if not now before the next general, it will surely follow after the next one gun banning legislation will follow shortly after their almost guaranteed win, and you can bank on that happening.
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It is common to say Australia has a complete gun ban - far from it. You can certainly own handguns but you have to demonstrate that you are a bonafide shooter. The Australian model is far more stringent than Canada but an avid shooter will get to shoot. Australians do well in IPSC.

The British ban is really a reflection of the British class system. The elites still have shotguns they use in estate game shooting. Only the "others" who bought handguns faced an actual ban.

If there is a ban, I suspect that gun owners will be grandparented. Not sure about the option of a gun buyback. The Libs won't want to budget upwards of half a billion to buy guns. The actual ban would take the form of a moratorium on new sales IMO.
 
Makava said:
That was the opinion of Australian and British gun owners as well, they were wrong and so are you, and although it may not be a complete ban, history is not on our side, and if not now before the next general, it will surely follow after the next one gun banning legislation will follow shortly after their almost guaranteed win, and you can bank on that happening.
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you're the one who's wrong on this ban bull####,comparing Canada to Australia and the British is a joke,both are tiny countries,and one of them is surrounded by freaking water and they STILL have tons of illegal guns coming in,LOL.as far as canadian gun owners simply turing over,you seem the type,but most gun owners i know sure as hell aren't turning anything over,as for the Liberal bull#### ban,IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN,Trudeau doesn't have the balls,and he's seeing his party going down in flames over his stupidity,and if you notice,Ontario completely destroyed their Liberal party,they aren't even recognized anymore and are totaly IRRELEVANT,and the vast majority of voters who flushed him down the toilet were the YOUNG you talk about,2,5 million gun voters and their friends could mean over 5 million votes influenced by this stupidity,so Trudeau better wave bye ,bye,he and his Liberal clowns will go down in flames come next elections,LOL.
 
Redmaple said:
There are about 2 million registered firearms owners, all of then adults, employed, many with families. They vote disproportionately in elections, and as opinion leaders in their families, they influence upwards of 3.5 million voters. That's a lot of clout. I think government will try and find a balance between the views of residents of major cities, who are somewhat represented by city councils, and need to preserve seats. On balance firearms owners are far more likely to vote against government than people are likely to get out and vote for a ban, the vast majority of whom have never been victim of gun violence. I think the Liberals will will shy away from an outright ban. In addition, I suspect the results of the study will not support an outright ban.
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2 million PAL holders and only a fraction care about the regulations that come down the pipe the vast majority are fudds that only care about getting that moose or Turkey in the fall. They will do NOTHING to stop a ban from happening because most believe as the antis believe you dont NEED x for hunting.
 
As i stated in anither thread, the big name/important distributors need to stop servicing and providing ammos to LE firearms.
 
Wiskey1 said:
you're the one who's wrong on this ban bull####,comparing Canada to Australia and the British is a joke,both are tiny countries,
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Australia... tiny ?

Wiskey1 said:
[...] as for the Liberal bull#### ban,IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN,Trudeau doesn't have the balls,and he's seeing his party going down in flames over his stupidity,
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If he f*cks up so bad he feels cornered, he *will* resort to the low hanging fruit of a thorough ban for easy positive PR.
 
Hmmm interesting I’m surprised that so many members are in denial that this potential ban is a possibility. I am not a fear monger, nor do I get upset over trivial issues, but this ban is a definite possibility. I’ll reserve my ranting and raving once I’ve read Bill Blair’s final report. We live in an age where a drama teacher is our prime minister and who subsequently paid 10 million dollars to a known terrorist. Times have changed. The amount of far left liberals in Canada has gone through the roof. Do a simple search of the polls to see where the rest of Canadians sit on the issue of gun control, it’s overwhelming in support of some form of a firearms ban. You can’t deny that Canadians want some sort of change. Personally I’d prefer to see tougher positions on crimes involving firearms and mandatory sentences versus a firearms ban. I encourage everyone to write their MPs and applicable cabinet ministers. As I said, I’ll wait to see what Mr. Blair’s final report says before I get too worked up. Mr. Blair may denounce a ban, or suggest stiffer penalties, or suggest a reform of the Criminal Code, which would make all this ‘sky is falling’ non-sense a moot point. If Mr. Blair does support a ban, I’d be curious as to what will be proposed to be banned. As far as I can tell there would be three options: Federal buy back program, grandfather the proposed prohibs, or confiscation. I would like to believe that the third option would not happen, but in today’s day in age, I’m not sure. If we were to go the route of an Australian firearms ban, I would have my fair share of firearms surrendered or confiscated, but I would have several that would be legal by Aussie standards. I obviously don’t support a ban but even the neigh-sayers must come to the realization that a ban is a possibility.
 
Wiskey1 said:
you're the one who's wrong on this ban bull####,comparing Canada to Australia and the British is a joke,both are tiny countries,and one of them is surrounded by freaking water and they STILL have tons of illegal guns coming in,LOL.as far as canadian gun owners simply turing over,you seem the type,but most gun owners i know sure as hell aren't turning anything over,as for the Liberal bull#### ban,IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN,Trudeau doesn't have the balls,and he's seeing his party going down in flames over his stupidity,and if you notice,Ontario completely destroyed their Liberal party,they aren't even recognized anymore and are totaly IRRELEVANT,and the vast majority of voters who flushed him down the toilet were the YOUNG you talk about,2,5 million gun voters and their friends could mean over 5 million votes influenced by this stupidity,so Trudeau better wave bye ,bye,he and his Liberal clowns will go down in flames come next elections,LOL.
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Why do so many people still believe that elected officials actually run anything?? These clowns are just put there to give you the illusion you have a choice, you don't. It is very, very simple follow the money. The owners of this country also own the "BANK OF CANADA".

Mark Twain said that "If voting made a difference, they wouldn't let us do it. "
 
Wiskey1 said:
you're the one who's wrong on this ban bull####,comparing Canada to Australia and the British is a joke,both are tiny countries,and one of them is surrounded by freaking water and they STILL have tons of illegal guns coming in,LOL.as far as canadian gun owners simply turing over,you seem the type,but most gun owners i know sure as hell aren't turning anything over,as for the Liberal bull#### ban,IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN,Trudeau doesn't have the balls,and he's seeing his party going down in flames over his stupidity,and if you notice,Ontario completely destroyed their Liberal party,they aren't even recognized anymore and are totaly IRRELEVANT,and the vast majority of voters who flushed him down the toilet were the YOUNG you talk about,2,5 million gun voters and their friends could mean over 5 million votes influenced by this stupidity,so Trudeau better wave bye ,bye,he and his Liberal clowns will go down in flames come next elections,LOL.
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FYI despite a smaller land mass than Canada, Australia has 25 million people and the UK has 55 million. Canada has a population of 37 million. I wouldn’t call either country small, and both Australia and the UK are islands surrounded by water (Scotland’s firearm laws are near identical to England). You seem to think that 2.5 million registered gun owners can have more of an influence than the 20 million registered voters. Educate yourself before claiming that it’ll never happen. Please instead of calling ill informed people that a firearms ban isn’t the answer and how it affects lawful gun owners. Bad guys don’t follow the law that’s why they’re bad guys they’ll find a way to procure firearms.
 
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