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It would seem to me that the delay in receiving the license is quite a dangerous and irresponsible action on the part of the govt.
It would appear that the delay is getting longer due to increased demand for licenses, so how about hiring some temps to get things back into line.
I passed my test in May, and still waiting to get on the system, perhaps I shall receive my license by august, some 3 months since i last handled a firearm.

I wonder how many people will forget their safety training while waiting for paper to be pushed ?

not a very safe practice in my book
 
You are going to have aquatint yourself with the safety feature of any firearm you buy, as they can be different than the ones you used on the course, the rest is common sense.

I we use the argument that the delay is causing a potential safety issue, then the easiest option for the CFO is to say everyone has to take the course again.

Plus once you have a license you never have to take the course again and it could be months/years before you use a firearm, especially if you only want to borrow a rifle for hunting.
 
"...people will forget their safety training..." Anybody who forgets that shouldn't have passed the tests in the first place.
"...how about hiring some temps..." Unions won't allow it and the government, regardless of what Party is in power, doesn't care how long it takes
 
"...how about hiring some temps..." Unions won't allow it and the government, regardless of what Party is in power, doesn't care how long it takes
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How does this even equate to the process in place?
There are more Non-Union Temp Employees in the Federal Government that there are Full time Federal Employees.
Go ahead and ask anyone who is a Full time Employee with a Number how many temps there are?
As to the OP, get used to it. you will have to wait for such items as ammo from site sponsors, firearms you wished you could buy yesterday but they are on back order for months even years because of the demand for that type of firearm and the list goes on and on.
Not to mention Five years from the application date or your Birthday which ever comes first you best get your renewal app. in long before the expiry date.
And the delay in your first lic. being dangerous, how does one figure that?
The first thing one does when handling a firearm is follow the 10 simple rules of safe handling of said firearm(s) , that after all is industry standard is it not?
Just some free advice from an educated Union Members Opinion .. take it for what it is.
Tight groups,
Rob
 
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sunray said:
"...people will forget their safety training..." Anybody who forgets that shouldn't have passed the tests in the first place.
"...how about hiring some temps..." Unions won't allow it and the government, regardless of what Party is in power, doesn't care how long it takes
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Bah I have to call BS on the Union thing... revenue Canada hires temps all the time, in fact all lower to mid level employees start as temps and have to be formally hired later, quite often they let the temps go and may call them back or not depending on performance. Its actually a pretty good system.

But back to the point of the OP, the same question arose in my mind during my 100 day wait. But I didn't really worry about myself I more or less thought it might be a good argument for speeding up the process since safety is a big issue to the Gov. But I doubt it would go anywhere.

You know PROVE and ACTS are good things to go by but really at the end of the day.... its really even more basic than that isn't.... check if your gun is a loaded in all aspects (chamber & mag) when you pick it up & put it down & don't the point the frigin' thing at anyone, follow this and no one should get accidentally shot.... I knew this before I took any course, I taught my 5 year old this and if anyone forgets those basics they shouldn't own a gun
 
An argument could be made that anyone in such a hurry to get a gun is probably the same person who should slow down and wait a bit.

While I understand and agree with your frustration over the wait times, I agree with the poster who said if you were going to forget the safety rules so quickly, you shouldn't have passed the tests. There is no requirement to own firearms or practice with them once you have your license, so it could be years before a person with a license ever handles a gun. In my case I used guns for work, but didn't actually purchase my own gun for at least ten years after getting my license. I kept it up to date and all in order the whole time, just never got around to buying. It didn't mean I forgot to keep my finger off the trigger and not muzzle sweep my buddy when I got a gun.
 
To the Op.. You are learning about the many ways the RCMP and CFO are doing everything they can to discourage private firearm ownership in Canada. You will find they drag thier feet and make every interaction they have with regard to firearms as slow, painfull, and expensive as they can make it. Anyway, welcome to the "powerful, well-funded Canadian gun lobby". (bring your own coffee and donuts)
 
stuartr7 said:
okay, well at least be honest and just say you may get your license sometime during the year and not give times that they are unable to meet
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Are you frustrated by this? If you are, the CFO's plan is working perfectly. Oh, and just in case you want to complain, the federal government will claim he's a provincial appointee and there's nothing they can do, and the provincial government will say he's paid by the federal government and.....there's nothing they can do. See how it works? You're gonna love owning firearms, eventually.
 
Gun safety training should not be forgotten!

If your memory is failing you, keep the course books handy. I refer to the hunting course book sometimes ;)
 
The OP brings up an interesting topic, and I've thought about this very thing while waiting for my PAL to arrive, but I have to agree with what has mostly been said. I just don't know how anyone could up and forget firearms safety in only a matter of months. I think the concerns the OP has are valid but I also think once we receive our PAL's and are able to start enjoying the world of firearms it should all start becoming familiar again. This is just my thinking though, I took the course seriously and firmly believe that with firearm ownership comes great responsibility so I made a point of paying attention and asking all the questions I had while in class. There are some things that will take new owners time to fully remember and that only comes from handling a firearm and doing the same things over and over again but the basics should have been easy to remember from the course. If in doubt though, the manuals are free online and only around 270 pages so it wouldn't take very long to freshen up on some things that might have been forgotten.
 
Yep, this is what they are doing.
ricradster said:
To the Op.. You are learning about the many ways the RCMP and CFO are doing everything they can to discourage private firearm ownership in Canada. You will find they drag thier feet and make every interaction they have with regard to firearms as slow, painfull, and expensive as they can make it. Anyway, welcome to the "powerful, well-funded Canadian gun lobby". (bring your own coffee and donuts)
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stuartr7 said:
It would seem to me that the delay in receiving the license is quite a dangerous and irresponsible action on the part of the govt.
It would appear that the delay is getting longer due to increased demand for licenses, so how about hiring some temps to get things back into line.
I passed my test in May, and still waiting to get on the system, perhaps I shall receive my license by august, some 3 months since i last handled a firearm.

I wonder how many people will forget their safety training while waiting for paper to be pushed ?

not a very safe practice in my book
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My first license renual took just about 6 months, I thought 4 would be enough at the direction of our CFO here in the Yukon. I was without a license for about 2 months. I now start about 11 months prior to my license expiration date.
 
stuartr7 said:
It would seem to me that the delay in receiving the license is quite a dangerous and irresponsible action on the part of the govt.
It would appear that the delay is getting longer due to increased demand for licenses, so how about hiring some temps to get things back into line.
I passed my test in May, and still waiting to get on the system, perhaps I shall receive my license by august, some 3 months since i last handled a firearm.

I wonder how many people will forget their safety training while waiting for paper to be pushed ?

not a very safe practice in my book
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If you feel you are going to forget how to safely handle a firearm just because it's been a few months since you handled one, I for one think you should re-think the whole firearms ownership thing. Perhaps it's just not for you.

I don't like to pick on newbies for asking dumb questions...but your post is especially dumb...and disturbing.
 
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