Lifetime .22LR pistol?

mudgunner49 said:
I've only been shooting handguns for 45 years or so, and only the last 37+ years have been in the military as well as instructing LE. .
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Wow! I'm impressed! I started shooting pistols only 52 years ago (I'm 72 years old now!). I also served in the military but not for 37 years. Anyway, I don't think that serving in the military makes you such a great expert on the Norinco pistols and a great shooter. Although, may be you are, who knows. "Splendid" for me means 90-94% for a 10-shot string at the 20-yard target from my Norinco M93 Sportsman. That's good enough for my 72 years of age.
Anyway, I don't think that further discussion on the subject would be meaningful in any way.
 
05RAV said:
Wow! I'm impressed! I started shooting pistols only 52 years ago (I'm 72 years old now!). I also served in the military but not for 37 years. Anyway, I don't think that serving in the military makes you such a great expert on the Norinco pistols and a great shooter. Although, may be you are, who knows. "Splendid" for me means 90-94% for a 10-shot string at the 20-yard target from my Norinco M93 Sportsman. That's good enough for my 72 years of age.
Anyway, I don't think that further discussion on the subject would be meaningful in any way.
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No - I'm impressed... you've been shooting pistols since I was 2!!! You're correct that military service doesn't equate to knowledge about shooting or firearms, either one, I was just fortunate to do far more of it than most, and have sort of collected Woodsmen of various vintages for 25 years or so. Lately I've been focusing on the Huntsman as you get 95% of the Woodsman without tying up so much in the way of dollars.

PRE-Woodsman means those made prior to the designation of 1st Model Woodsman - originally they were marked "Colt's .22 Pistol" or some such, followed by the 1st Model (the same except for the markings), then the Second Model (mag release behind the trigger guard) then the Third Model (back to heel of the butt)
 
delavan said:
That M93 seems to be well made. Doesn't seem to be offered anymore is it?
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Regrettably, it starts becoming a rarity nowadays. Like I mentioned in my post #60 it was so well made that it's manufacturing was too expensive even for Chinese and they discontinued it around early 2000's. I think that they would have to increase the price substantially to keep the quality intact. Perhaps, they decided it was not worth it in the competitive markets.
I bought my Norinco M93 from Questar a few years ago which was a remaining production batch from the 1990's, which I call ONIB (old-new-in-the-box), covered in cosmoline. I bought it just on impulse since I've never had any great expectations regarding Chinese stuff. After examining my M93 I was astonished by the quality of the pistol. That's why I recommend it as a lifetime pistol.
 
Sochi said:
10 rounds and stainless - I definitely want this one - true art never gets old.
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If anyone ever gets the chance to shoot the S&W 617 they should, it will make you a better shooter.


Not sure if it's mentioned here or not but the Smith & Wesson 22A-1 is a very good gun, my wife has one and how easy it is for take down and cleaning,
ease of use and it's is a very accurate 22 handgun. You can pick these up mint for $250.00 to $350.00 and you will not be disappointed in the 22A-1.

Built in top rail, adjustable sights and it's so easy to clean, again if you get the chance to try one of these you should.

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Lifetime .22lr...

Not an ISSC M22 :) :p

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For .22lr I'm fond of the following, which I still own....

Ruger MkII 5.5" bull barrel
Ruger MkIII 22/45 slab side 4.5" barrel
Ruger MkIII 22/45 Lite
GSG 1911
Colt 1911 .22 conversion unit
Ceiner 1911 Platinum Cup .22 conversion unit
Beretta M71
S&W Model 18

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I can give a list of what I have had and some opinions of them.

Ruger MKI:Mine was rough when I got it, but had a good trigger and shot accurately enough. Did not like the 9 round mag.
Ruger MKII 5.5" bull: Was my first new handgun. Did a drop in trigger job on it and it was very accurate. Got rid of it to buy a center fire. Of the Mk models this one was my favorite
Ruger MKIII Hunter: No more accurate with the fiber optic sights than the MKII. Did not like the mag disconnect on it. Sold it for the next 22.
S&W 617 6 shot: I really liked that gun. It was way more accurate than the Rugers and worked well shooting outside in the winter. Only reason I sold it is for the next one.
S&W41: Buddy was getting out of shooting and sold me one with Hogue target grips, and both barrel lengths for $700. You cannot pass that up. First gun I ever shot was a 41 when I was 5; my dad held it tight on a bench and I got to pull the trigger :).
Ruger SP101: Got it for my girls. It is okay, but I wish not have bothered if it was not for the size for them. Liked my 617 way better. My oldest, who is 7, is telling me I have to do a trigger job on it:).
 
I had Sig 1911-22 for a while and made a lot mods in it, CWA parts and Lok G10 grip. It runs flawless with any HP ammo. My wife and I are both love to shoot it at range. It is a not-for-sale .22 pistol to me.

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O.K. as I said before , great pistol, well made, cheap, BUT you keep saying none after 2000, But I sold some I got from my dist. in maybe 2012-13, would have to check books.
BTW, my go to is Hi Standards, Colt 357m, S-W, 17's, 19's, 41 are nice, but I shoot Hi Standards better, more use to the grips, I guess, worked on lots of 41's thou.

05RAV said:
Regrettably, it starts becoming a rarity nowadays. Like I mentioned in my post #60 it was so well made that it's manufacturing was too expensive even for Chinese and they discontinued it around early 2000's. I think that they would have to increase the price substantially to keep the quality intact. Perhaps, they decided it was not worth it in the competitive markets.
I bought my Norinco M93 from Questar a few years ago which was a remaining production batch from the 1990's, which I call ONIB (old-new-in-the-box), covered in cosmoline. I bought it just on impulse since I've never had any great expectations regarding Chinese stuff. After examining my M93 I was astonished by the quality of the pistol. That's why I recommend it as a lifetime pistol.
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Finally,
I found a nice Browning buckmark on sale at Wanstall. Pretty good price, much better than expected. Now I should have it in a week or so, depending on transfer times and ground shipping from BC to AB.
 
delavan said:
I thought about that, but I also want the .22 pistol as a separate firearm, to get the wife hooked. She liked shooting the 9mm, but if she feels that she's got her own, I'm better off....we all know what im trying to do lol!

The ruger Mark 4 is the new ones easier to clean? That is good. I shot a S&W 422 about 25 years ago and it was sweet and accurate. Too bad they are no longer sold. The Victory pistol doesnt appeal to be...

Wolverine sells a 9 shot 22lr revolver, alfa proj model 251, so CZ basically...might be interesting!
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I recently purchased the Alfa proj 6 inch in chrome. I find it to be well made, has a decent trigger and it is potentially fairly accurate. I say that as I just have started testing it with different brands of ammo to find what it likes. So far cci HV solid is in the lead, but I still have a lot to test. As a revolver is pretty simple, it should last a few lifetimes with some common sense care. Also, note the chrome model is stainless steel, not alloy as one of the other Alfa proj 22 models are.
 
My Ruger Mk III has had 20k rounds go through it and it's in top shape. I have no doubt that it'll last me a lifetime. They're solidly built. My club has a number of them that get shot a lot and receive little care, and they keep on working. The Ruger gets my vote as a solid, durable, reliable and affordable pistol. Oh, and they are very accurate too!
 
delavan said:
I thought about that, but I also want the .22 pistol as a separate firearm, to get the wife hooked. She liked shooting the 9mm, but if she feels that she's got her own, I'm better off....we all know what im trying to do lol!

The ruger Mark 4 is the new ones easier to clean? That is good. I shot a S&W 422 about 25 years ago and it was sweet and accurate. Too bad they are no longer sold. The Victory pistol doesnt appeal to be...

Wolverine sells a 9 shot 22lr revolver, alfa proj model 251, so CZ basically...might be interesting!
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No, no connection whatsoever with CZ.

Decent enough for the price but not top end. They were good deals when they were under $500 not as much now that the prices have climbed. I think I'd be haunting the EE for a S&W model 17
 
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