Light-mounted Pistol Question

Dude, you sound like the kid that rats everyone out to the teacher in elementary school.

We aren't arguing *what* the rules are. We are saying the rules are and illogical and not in the spirit of realistic "Defensive Pistol" shooting.

Canuck44 said:
If you are having an IDPA practice night then I would ask why not practice the skills you need when you have your monthly match. Include low light scenarios all good. Just don't tell me you are practicing shooting IDPA low light scenarios with a light attached to the gun. You aren't.
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Why not practice the skills AND with the equipment you will use in a gunfight? Is that not the original intent of this sport?
 
Canuck44 said:
In view of a couple of responses on this thread I took the liberty to send Kevin Boland's comments regarding shooting IDPA in Florida to the Area Coordinator for Florida. Here is Lance's response:

"To respond to your question, I first gotta say... “Well, you know how it goes; it must be true, 'cause I heard it on the "Net"!" Ha!

Short answer: NO! Absolutely not. Please feel free to inform your members that the IDPA clubs in Florida are following the IDPA rulebook in regard to weapon mounted lights, and Mr. Boland’s (whoever he really is, see below) statement to the contrary is in error.

In fact, with a few exceptions, the IDPA clubs down here shoot on outdoor shooting ranges that have restrictions prohibiting them from shooting at night at all. One of those exceptions is the match that I run in Leesburg. We shoot on an indoor range and turn off the range lights for at least one stage each match. No weapon mounted lights are allowed.
( I make an exception for the few L.E. officers that we have that are using their issue duty rig and gun, if it has a light mounted. But… they’re scored separately, off the IDPA record. ).....

Just between you and me, Bob; are you sure of the info you have on this guy?
You didn’t say where you got Mr. Boland’s name and work info from, but I just got off the phone with Hdqs, and guess what? Dru tells me that their membership records show no IDPA member named Kevin S. Boland.
So, just for fun, I went back through the last 6 months of scores of the closest 4 IDPA clubs to Titusville, and, again… no Kevin S. Boland.

Anyway, if you should have any further contact with “Mr. Boland”, would you please ask him to let me know which Florida clubs he is referring to, that are disregarding the rulebook, so I can pay them a visit? Thanks! See you in Tulsa!

Lance Biddle A00045
IDPA Florida Area Coordinator"

Enough said, I think.

Take Care

Bob
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Wow..I say WOW.

Are you for friggin real? WTF is wrong with you? Bitter much? I've read all kinds of pissy things on CGN, disregarding the majority of them as internet post whoring...but wow....you take the cake.

And to think I was maybe gonna give IDPA a whirl??? You and you alone have made that seem like a lost venture and something I would thoroughly NOT enjoy if others attitudes are as yours is. You sound more like a whiny prison snitch than someone who enjoys shooting sports.

FYI.....rules is rules.....I think low light etc would be fun.....issues do not change unless brought to light. You posts go beyond a rational response and into the realm of personal attack....unbelievable.

For the record I know none of the other posters....I'm just an appalled observer.
 
No Big Red. KevinB posted most clubs in Florida allow light mounted guns to be shot at their matches. Well from the comments from the local AC they don't. I'll take whatever else he had to say with a grain of salt.

As to the rule regarding lights mounted on guns. All I posted was it was not allowed in IDPA. It was Kevin who comes on with the nonsense about the clubs in Florida.

I think you will agree that shooting IDPA with a light attached to the muzzle during the daylight would confer a rather substantial advantage over guns not so equiped. Too, for low light stages, if we allowed lights to be attached to the guns it would mean all contestants would have to go out and spend a couple hundred dollars for lights for their guns, as well as holsters for this arrangement. By having the rules as it is, we don't deal with the additional expense to shooters.

As been mentioned several time in this thread IDPA is just a game. Our members play the game as the sport is written.

Take Care

Bob
 
Stevo said:
Bob,
Do you intentionally try to harm IDPA in Canada when you post on the internet, or does it just work out that way?
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But Steve,

Bob is the official IDPA Area Coordinator of Canada, he is in charge of IDPA as far as canada is concerned, he would never try to harm it or use his position to bully people.

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Some of you must have some really cool guns.

I don't have a light rail on my new Glock gen 2 or my type 54. So my tactical adviser had suggested I mount a light using "urban camo speed tape". Then prior to installation, if I invert the flashlight, then file an "acu-wedge" in the base. It would give me a forward grip position just like he has on his cooey. Here was his idea.


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I think I screwed it up though. Man is my wife going to be pissed.


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Wow. There is making a point and there is slagging the other guy. Someone is actually living the CCW thing, not just pretending, and gets dumped on. Rules be stuffed if they become a false religion.
 
Canuck44 said:
Too, for low light stages, if we allowed lights to be attached to the guns it would mean all contestants would have to go out and spend a couple hundred dollars for lights for their guns, as well as holsters for this arrangement. By having the rules as it is, we don't deal with the additional expense to shooters.
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No they wouldn't "have to", because there is no prizing in IDPA. "By having the rules as it is", the sport is kept in the dark ages (literally).

One of the reasons I was attracted to IDPA-style shooting was the lack of prizing. It's setup that way to remove a lot of the incentive to cheat, game, and over-invest in a sport that is intended to be practice for CCW (some incentive remains in humanity's natural competitiveness).

No prizing also helps avoid legalistic management of matches and practice sessions, because no money is on the line. Unless of course the current management enjoys being legalistic, which is readily apparent based on post #58. Disappointing.

What is the mechanism for suggesting rule changes?
 
acrashb said:
What is the mechanism for suggesting rule changes?
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HQ sent out a questionaire to the Area Coordinators seeking there suggestions regarding rule book changes last spring. We were told the new rule book would be out before this season's shooting season. That date has been set back and the most recent information suggests it will be out by the summer/fall for implementation Jan. 1/11. Aside for some minor tweaking I don't get the impression much will change. I know weight limits for CDP are being looked at as well as the power factor for SSR. The latter is presently set at 125, well above what manufacturers are loading .38spl ammo.

There has been an amendment to the rules regarding duel springs and the use of the STI Recoil Master spring arrangement for 1911's. The amendment goes into effect immediately and has been posted on the IDPA Canada website.

Take Care

Bob
 
tritium said:
wow, elements of this thread would certainly turn you off of certain sports.
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No... Just off of some of the people involved in the sport.

'Some guys just have to be able to prove to other guys whome they've never, or will probably never meet that they are right... On issues that don't matter... On the internet.

But... You'll get that anywhere.

BTW... Flashlight match this Sat at Colby :)
 
Reading your comments Bob has completly put me off ever wanting to try IDPA. I thought it might be a good fit for me... but turns out im not a good fit for it... not if there are people like that there...
 
hugehodge83 said:
Reading your comments Bob has completly put me off ever wanting to try IDPA. I thought it might be a good fit for me... but turns out im not a good fit for it... not if there are people like that there...
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There are a lot of people who shoot IDPA, wait for Tritium's review of the Kingston match this weekend hopefully you will change your opinion.
 
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