lighting conditions on stages... opening can.. worms clawling out

[Slavex]

shooting in the dark tests your ability to not just rely on having 100% of the information required. It means you might have to use a flashlight, memory, or squint, or look back and forth between gun and targets, and try to work out a solution that gets your hits on paper. True total darkness stages can be a bit rough to run if you look at the safety side, which is why any that I setup (not for IPSC mind you), there is always enough ambient light for the RO to see what the shooter is doing, but not enough for the shooter to clearly make everything out downrange, without making that extra effort in focusing and paying attention.
Yes the good shooters usually do much better than the poor. But that's the same on movers and other "carnival" type props (which I love by the way).
And some of us do practice shooting in the dark, or blinded by bright lights, or running up stairs or whatever. just depends on what you think is important to practice. Lots of people don't practice weak hand, or strong hand only and it shows at a match.

 

[stormbringer]

Sorry, but you are not required to like, or agree with my opinion.

My question(s) to you would be, why put a dark stage in a match?, what shooting ability where you testing?

Ummm

That would be shooting in less than ideal lighting conditions silly!

oh btw........in case you were wondering I think that your opinion sucks large chunks of rancid gopher meat.

 

[stormbringer]

Anyone have any experience with this?
How dark were the stages you guys are talking about (living daylights)?

In my case we put a spotlight on the shooter that illuminated him/her so the R/O could monitor the shooter.

Only the targets were dim/dark.........well until they were individually illuminated by spotlights themselves in a predictable sequence.

 

[maurice]

Use a red filter with a normal G2 type surefire would allow the RO to watch the shooters hands and muzzle....and not interfere with their night vision.
At the 2005 Nationals they used a red light,..but the shooter used a flashlight (that is what I saw in the DVD)

 

[omen]

I could probably list a dozen different scenarios that put certain shooters at a disadvantage for one reason or another...but as long as the challenge is the same for all competitors (ie, not random)...there's really nothing to discuss. It's part of the game.

So having to shoot over a 6' wall is ok, because it's the same for everyone? BS.

I'll tell you what I think the problem here is.

With physical issues, people who don't "suffer" from them can at least visualize the problem - they can see or image that a 6' wall would be a problem for someone who's 5'5". Does that mean that this wouldn't be allowed only if, to quote Sean, the majority of shooters had a problem with that? Of course not.

With vision issues, there isn't this understanding. People who don't have a vision problem (be it short signtness, or color vision, or night blindness, etc) have NO IDEA what the effect is, and have no idea what is and what isn't reasonable and realistic to cover the majority of shootes. I'm 6'2", but I can guess at a height of a wall to hide targets behind which won't be stupid for any shooter... People who don't have vision problems cannot ####ing guess what effect those environmental conditions have on people with glasses, or astigmatism, or night blindless, or whatever. They then invent situations which go to extreme lengths to aggrevate the effect, and when asked about it hide behind "it's the same for everyone."

Anyhow, as it turns out, I don't care anymore, so never mind

 

[ckc123]

People who don't have vision problems cannot f**king guess what effect those environmental conditions have on people with glasses, or astigmatism, or night blindless, or whatever.

But your not taking into account people who have the following.

Asthma

So now we have to limit all the COF to standing only because they have breathing problems when they are running during a long COF.

Height Challenged people:

We now have to make the maximum height of all ports to be 24" off the ground on the off chance a short person may show up. and all COFs can't be more then 3 steps since thier short legs can't run as fast as your 6'2"

Lupus:

We now have to make all the matched indoors because thier skin is sensitive to light..

How about all the "older" shooter.

we now have to stop having swingers cause thier arms can't move that fast or pickup the movement, How about thier slower trigger fingers. do we now have to have to have all COF's to have a FIXED TIME of 20 mins so they can be "treated fairly"...

Shall I go on?

 

[colt45gunner]

Anyhow, as it turns out, I don't care anymore, so never mind