Lightweight O/U for beginner?

20g shells are of course more $$.
you can get any citory with short barrels, chop the stock down to fit yout wife and put custom recoil coil or hydrolic system in it. That is if you dont mind spending few extra.
I personally collect many beretta, browning in both O/U and semi and they all work great.
I also have tried those junior sized guns.. if she is a beginner then sure get her the smaller ones to get used to.. but it is not the top quality if you are looking to buy a "tad higher price tag" in shotguns.

I would make her happy by just custom fitting the gun for her self. can be done in both semi, O,U. Stock mod will cost around 200-300, add another 300-400 for recoil system with coils or hydrolics.
 
kimmer82 said:
....20g shells are of course more $$.
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No they aren't. I get tired of disspelling this myth. For flats of cheap target loads they are exactly the same price as 12 gauge. Specialty (goose/turkey ) loads may be marginally more expensive for 20 gauge.

If your retailer is charging significantly more for 20 gauge ammo he is gouging you.
 
diemaco said:
No they aren't. I get tired of disspelling this myth. For flats of cheap target loads they are exactly the same price as 12 gauge. Specialty (goose/turkey ) loads may be marginally more expensive for 20 gauge.

If your retailer is charging significantly more for 20 gauge ammo he is gouging you.
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I have heard that myth as well. Winchester, Remington and Federal offer 12 and 20 target loads at the same price in premium as well as bargain loads. Its 16, 28 and 4-10 that cost more for premium and there are no bargain target loads offered by the big 3.
 
B-lever said:
I attended the international trap competitions in Cookstown near Toronto a couple of weeks ago. There were many women shooters and one very petite shooter using proper trap guns.
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Good observation. Smaller firearms and smaller gauges are great for introducing new shooters to clay targets, especially those who are younger, smaller and weaker. Actually they are great for introducing anyone to clay sports. They are at their best for informal shooting and gauge specific events. I have seen many excellent women shooters and like you I have seen some very petite lady shooter handling proper competition guns. I am convinced that these ladies are those who simply do not buy into, them being smaller and weaker and that there being a need for using a lessor gun. In addition to busting targets they are also busting a myth.
 
ahh forgot to describe in details.
for my self 20g costs little more since i order in bulk with 12g shells.
I would order 30+ flats of shells at a time and pay $54 a flat with tax and freight incleded.
so in my head, 12guage is just tad cheaper then 20g. I do know many ladies that shoots 20guage but in semi auto, there are no difference in recoil i find.
 
Hi We own two youth shotguns the browning citori micro 12 guage and the mossberg silver reserve youth in 20 guage,both have been good but the browning is a bit heavier.I also hand load to reduce recoil.Let your wife try as many different guns as she can as fit is the most important thing
 
12 gauge is the way to go for both trap and sporting. There is a lot more availability of guns, gun options and target loads.

Recoil is based mainly on the amount of lead and velocity ... so, for example, a one oz. load at 1180 fps will recoil the same, no matter what gauge.

The key to taming recoil is gun fit. Proper stock length, pitch, etc. is most important. You need to make sure the gun recoils into her shoulder and not up wards into her face.

If the gun is barrel heavy, you can add weight to the stock which will shift the balance of the gun back. You can also look at shorter barrels (ie: 28").

I would suggest you take a look at a 391 Beretta (RL - reduced length, if she has short arms) or an older Remington 1100. Both of these guns have a lot of options and aftermarket accessories available in the marketplace.
 
Beretta687EELL said:
12 gauge is the way to go for both trap and sporting. There is a lot more availability of guns, gun options and target loads.

Recoil is based mainly on the amount of lead and velocity ... so, for example, a one oz. load at 1180 fps will recoil the same, no matter what gauge.

The key to taming recoil is gun fit. Proper stock length, pitch, etc. is most important. You need to make sure the gun recoils into her shoulder and not up wards into her face.

If the gun is barrel heavy, you can add weight to the stock which will shift the balance of the gun back. You can also look at shorter barrels (ie: 28").

I would suggest you take a look at a 391 Beretta (RL - reduced length, if she has short arms) or an older Remington 1100. Both of these guns have a lot of options and aftermarket accessories available in the marketplace.
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All right on! The only thing I would add is that even though recoil is the same ft. lbs. in the 12 and 20 of your example, perceived recoil lessens with the heavier weight moved (firearm) and the heavier 12 would develope the least percieved recoil. I use a 7/8 load in the same model 12 and 20 auto loaders. Recoil in the 20 is mild but recoil in the 12 seems almost non existent.
 
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