Limitations of the .410 ?

Oh one last thing on .410s...ammo is STUPID $$$ 2-3x the price of 12g ammo, especially if your buying (the unneeded) 3" shells.
 
I have a Winchester 9410 traditional it s by far one of my favourite rabbit guns,it uses a 2 1/2 inch shell and have never had a problem killing any rabbit that came within my range.
 
jeffcarr88 said:
Oh one last thing on .410s...ammo is STUPID $$$ 2-3x the price of 12g ammo, especially if your buying (the unneeded) 3" shells.
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Reloads are 12 or 13 cents each, or about 4 bucks to load a box. THe hulls are good for 15 or more loads before they expand too much or the plastic blows apart.
 
From Chuckie and most experts agree on the shotgun sites

The nominal bore of a .410 shotgun is.410 inch. Which is why it is properly called the .410 bore instead of the .410 gauge. In Europe it is sometimes called the 12mm, which is an inaccurate designation as a .410 bore has an actual diameter of approximately 10.4mm by metric measure. If the .410 had been named in the traditional fashion, by the number of lead balls .41 inch in diameter needed to make one pound, it would be about a 67-68 gauge. Many years ago it was also called the 36 gauge, and I have seen a picture of an old box of Remington shells marked "(36 GA.) .410-2 1/2 IN. (12 MM)." However, the "36 Gauge" designation was very inaccurate, as a true 36 gauge gun would actually have a .506 inch bore diameter.
 
3macs1 said:
From Chuckie and most experts agree on the shotgun sites

The nominal bore of a .410 shotgun is.410 inch. Which is why it is properly called the .410 bore instead of the .410 gauge. In Europe it is sometimes called the 12mm, which is an inaccurate designation as a .410 bore has an actual diameter of approximately 10.4mm by metric measure. If the .410 had been named in the traditional fashion, by the number of lead balls .41 inch in diameter needed to make one pound, it would be about a 67-68 gauge. Many years ago it was also called the 36 gauge, and I have seen a picture of an old box of Remington shells marked "(36 GA.) .410-2 1/2 IN. (12 MM)." However, the "36 Gauge" designation was very inaccurate, as a true 36 gauge gun would actually have a .506 inch bore diameter.
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.506 bore is more 32 gauge factis quite a few .410 bore guns have a bore over .410 a lot of them near .420-.425 witch is still in the limits saami sets
 
It's amazing how many people can't get past the fact the a #5 pellet fired from a 410 hits with as much lethal impact as it does when fired from a 10 ga. I shoot 3/4 oz loads in my 12 ga for small game no one questions me. I bring a 410 loaded with 11/16oz and everyone laughs. Yes a 410 has a longer shot string but how many pellets does it take to kill small game really. It only takes a few to break a clay target and I've seen foxes killed with a single #7.5 pellet. I've also been on a skeet field where guys (members on here) literally smoke the targets with 1/2oz #9 and guys with 12 ga guns can't keep up. Is it the right choice for moose and bear and lion? No but it wasn't meant to be either. There are better tools for the job. As to slugs in the 410 I haven't met a man willing to stand at a 100 yards downrange and try to catch one. That has got to stand for something. Haters will hate and 410ers will continue to enjoy our awesome Lil scatter guns
 
brybenn said:
It's amazing how many people can't get past the fact the a #5 pellet fired from a 410 hits with as much lethal impact as it does when fired from a 10 ga. I shoot 3/4 oz loads in my 12 ga for small game no one questions me. I bring a 410 loaded with 11/16oz and everyone laughs. Yes a 410 has a longer shot string but how many pellets does it take to kill small game really. It only takes a few to break a clay target and I've seen foxes killed with a single #7.5 pellet. I've also been on a skeet field where guys (members on here) literally smoke the targets with 1/2oz #9 and guys with 12 ga guns can't keep up. Is it the right choice for moose and bear and lion? No but it wasn't meant to be either. There are better tools for the job. As to slugs in the 410 I haven't met a man willing to stand at a 100 yards downrange and try to catch one. That has got to stand for something. Haters will hate and 410ers will continue to enjoy our awesome Lil scatter guns
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the .410 was really meant for small game to put meat on the table and always handy to have on the farm/camp. the way I see it less lead and powder less waste squirrels and rabbits don't seem to know the difference
 
Mike Webb said:
Not that hard to calculate which is true. If you can weigh a .410 diameter lead ball then however many it takes to make a pound is the gauge.
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I checked like you suggested and yes it DID come out to 76, as well as every other site I looked at.
I never really considered the gauge to caliber ratio of the 410, and didn't question it whenever i saw it mentioned as a 36 gauge , either.
Not that it matters but in technical terms i guess, but i still won't take one purposely in place of a 28 gauge!!
Cat
 
Not bad mouthing the .410. It is a great little shotgun for snowshoe hares, ruffed grouse, ptarmigan or what have you. Not real effective past 25 or 30 yards but how much small game is taken at those ranges? Also an excellent first shotgun for a kid that they can get the hang of without being pounded at all. A friend of mine owns an old H&R Topper in 3 in. .410 and I have seen him upend partridge at ridiculous ranges with it.
 
I've always had one and still use one occasionally, but it's certainly not one of my favourite shotgun gauges - er calibres, um, sizes - yeah, that's it, shotgun sizes!!:>)
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Mike Webb said:
Not bad mouthing the .410. It is a great little shotgun for snowshoe hares, ruffed grouse, ptarmigan or what have you. Not real effective past 25 or 30 yards but how much small game is taken at those ranges? Also an excellent first shotgun for a kid that they can get the hang of without being pounded at all. A friend of mine owns an old H&R Topper in 3 in. .410 and I have seen him upend partridge at ridiculous ranges with it.
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when you need longer then 20 yards for small game then a .22lr should be the gun you grab the .410 will take treed squirrels no problem and flushed rabbits don't have a chance that said 1/2oz of #6 in a 12ga patterns better
 
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