Linseed Oil All Created Equal?

bearhunter said:
This is good information for me. I learned something new about Tung Oil.

I'm going out tomorrow and look for Pure Tung Oil.

I've seen the finishes on plenty of Purple's builds and they definitely are not shiney.
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I bought my last can of PTO at Lee Valley Kelowna several years ago. Their website currently lists both polymerized tung oil with a drying agent(#56Z4500) and PTO without a drying agent (#56Z1002).

I'm in the process of refinishing a used Tipo 2 Garand stock that I stripped and stained with an alcohol stain (always best on a used stock containing residual oils)and may do this one with Minwax Tung Oil Finish which contains a drying agent. The important thing is to apply light coats and wipe dry after application. You don't want heavy layers of finish to dry and accumulate on top of the wood. The idea is to allow the finish to penetrate the wood.
 
Painkillers said:
I don't know what either of you guys are talking about. Both Linseed and Tung are polymerized vegetable base oils. The main difference between the two are the finish. Tung oil is high luster (as per the advertisement I linked :sok2), linseed is not.

Another link...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tung_oil
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I don't know what to say to you other than Wikipedia is not the most reliable source of information out there.
I cannot argue about the molecular makeup of these oils as I'm not a chemist; maybe 100% natural tung or linseed oil polymerizes over time naturally as the article indicates, but the important thing to remember is they do so without the help of dryers or carriers. Those dryers allow for the oils to dry on the surface, which as others have alluded to, you don't want to happen. If the oil is sitting on the surface, it means it is not soaking into the wood fibres and not doing its job. You need to wipe that off or unwanted build up will occur.

Most information out there on the use of oils for wood finishing and re-finishing is geared to furniture - so I'd recommend reading that stuff with a grain of salt.
There is plenty of information out there on what manufacturers and militaries used on their service rifles, and this is the stuff you should be sourcing.
Maybe read the CMP article I posted previously.

Back to tung and linseed oil - Read the fine print, and go to the manufacturer's website if it isn't clearly identified on the container.
Sourcing the 100% raw form of both can be a challenge.
One used to be able to go to just about any local hardware store and buy the generic Recochem L.O. or Tung oil without the dryers and thinners, but that is getting tougher.
This is compounded by the vast majority of makers like Watco and Minwax now producing both without specifically stating the stuff in the bottle has dryers and carriers in it, and in some cases they are containing a lacquer, varnish or a polyurethane finish within the makeup of the 'oil'.
 
purple said:
I bought my last can of PTO at Lee Valley Kelowna several years ago. Their website currently lists both polymerized tung oil with a drying agent(#56Z4500) and PTO without a drying agent (#56Z1002).

I'm in the process of refinishing a used Tipo 2 Garand stock that I stripped and stained with an alcohol stain (always best on a used stock containing residual oils)and may do this one with Minwax Tung Oil Finish which contains a drying agent. The important thing is to apply light coats and wipe dry after application. You don't want heavy layers of finish to dry and accumulate on top of the wood. The idea is to allow the finish to penetrate the wood.
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Thanx for this John.

I ordered a 1L can of it this morning. I was going to order less, but with the large can, because of their free shipping policy on orders over $40, it's cheaper to order the large can and have it shipped than it is to drive to Kelowna and back from here.

I don't do large population centers well, especially this time of year.
 
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Raw Linseed Oil has worked well for me, it's also a good oil to spray the underside of your truck before winter. It's way cleaner than used engine oil and it's still cheap. Smells okay too.
 
Whats the difference between BLO and double boiled linseed oil, besides the obvious? Also would it be safe for a rifle stock or too much drying additives.
 
Cteve said:
Kool, but again that's not the Tung oil "we" are referring to....it must say 100% Tung oil anything else is a different product and will have drying agents in it.
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Sorry my bad I didn't read the title of the thread. I thought it was about linseed oil.

What a sec, I just looked at thread title, linseed all created equal?

Kool I can comprehend English. Did you read through the thread I posted? I put it there because there is some really good info by members who are no longer around. They probably forgot more about this hobby than most of will ever know.
 
hogie said:
Sorry my bad I didn't read the title of the thread. I thought it was about linseed oil.

What a sec, I just looked at thread title, linseed all created equal?

Kool I can comprehend English. Did you read through the thread I posted? I put it there because there is some really good info by members who are no longer around. They probably forgot more about this hobby than most of will ever know.
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Laugh2, someone else upset because they're WrOnG? We can maybe grow up together? These guys are hell bent on Tung oil, okay fine. Linseed is a superior oil finish for stocks...it's kinda like a Chevy/ Ford argument...these Ford tung oil guys always think they're right, and you're wrong, no matter how much truth you point them to. Pearls before swine I regret to tell you.
 
hogie said:
Sorry my bad I didn't read the title of the thread. I thought it was about linseed oil.

What a sec, I just looked at thread title, linseed all created equal?

Kool I can comprehend English. Did you read through the thread I posted? I put it there because there is some really good info by members who are no longer around. They probably forgot more about this hobby than most of will ever know.
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Ha, your not wrong. My fault lol.
 
Painkillers said:
Laugh2, someone else upset because they're WrOnG? We can maybe grow up together? These guys are hell bent on Tung oil, okay fine. Linseed is a superior oil finish for stocks...it's kinda like a Chevy/ Ford argument...these Ford tung oil guys always think they're right, and you're wrong, no matter how much truth you point them to. Pearls before swine I regret to tell you.
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Bahaha, starting to feel like an old chunky soup commercial.
 
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