Lion Hunting-Cartridge
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patricksbb391
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I would determine where that is "legal" and go there. That is more than enough to kill the biggest cat, if you hit it correctly.
Zambia and Zim accept 9.3's, from memory. SA it seemed to depend where the outfitter works. When I was there i mostly saw 30-06 and 375 rifles. - dan
When I hear lion and lioness in the same sentence its usually captive bred hunts. Might not what you’re looking for, make sure you ask pointed questions in your research.
Didn’t think you would; on purpose anyway. Things aren’t always as they appear, therefore the caution. Do with it as you will.
Do some research on this topic. Some of the hunters shooting these released-yesterday, often-drugged lions are well aware of the situation. Others have had the hunt presented to them as a death-defying white-knuckle pitting of man against a wild beast...which is about as far from reality as it can be. Those guys are not present when the farm owners roll the lion out of the truck the day before and then hurry away before it recovers its senses and begins begging for food.
Lots of these "hunts" are done in a small enclosure of maybe a few hundred acres, or less. The supposed PH in charge artfully guides the clueless hunter to and through parts of it where the fence isn't quite visible.
A true lion hunt, for a true free-ranging wild lion, usually results in a scarred, scraggly, been-there-done-that looking lion, whose mane is torn and tattered by thornbrush and who doesn't look at all like the old MGM lion at the beginning of black-and-white movies. But...it's a trophy of the purest kind, beautiful in a way that the carefully coiffed canned lions can never duplicate.
If a lion looks like it has recently been in a hair salon...it ain't something that any hunter should want to shoot, IMHO.
I was snooping around the Accurate Reloading forum, which has a lot of info on African hunting, and saw a lion hunt being offered right now, priced as follows:
21 days 1x1 $2,500/day + 2% govt tax
Lion trophy fees $30,000 + 4% govt tax
Game Scout $50/day until lion is taken
Road transfer aprx $1,500 return from Bulawayo
So...$50K in daily fees, and you need to buy the whole package of days in order to get a permit for a lion...plus $30K trophy fee...plus another $1K to pay for the government game scout...plus $1500 to drive to and from the airport...plus airfare, no idea how much that would be nowadays, but I'm sure you'd still likely go through Frankfurt, so count on around 18 hours in the air, likely a couple of hotel overnights...tips for the PH and the skinners, trackers, cooks, drivers...likely some taxidermy expenses, plus the cost of importing the trophy into Canada...all told, $100K should cover it.
Lion are among the most expensive African hunts. Canned hunts seem to be cheaper but...why anyone would want to do one is another question.
The entire african hunting industry is based upon sport. Hunters pay good money for the experience of hunting animals in Africa. They take home memories of an exotic adventure, including horns and hides. They do not take home a cooler full of meat...
The meat is not wasted; it is provided to the locals. But the value of the meat is nothing compared to the value of bringing a traveling hunter, and their money, into the country. Obviously, this provides countless jobs, but it also means the animals themselves have value.
Here in north america, we value animals just by their being. We labour to conserve nature, just because it's nature. This mentality is missing in much of Africa. If the animals do not bring in clients, and the people do not have jobs that depend on those animals, then why would they care if there were healthy populations of those animals. It would certainly be easier for agriculture and safer for remote villages if some animals were gone completely. Thankfully, they are not wiped out because they have value.
A canned hunt for a cage raised lion has obvious moral implications. This is for each person to decide for themselves.
Lastly, I think we can all agree that there should be zero tolerance for anyone wishing the death of a fellow cgn member.
Sorry for the long post.
The meat is not wasted; it is provided to the locals. But the value of the meat is nothing compared to the value of bringing a traveling hunter, and their money, into the country. Obviously, this provides countless jobs, but it also means the animals themselves have value.
Here in north america, we value animals just by their being. We labour to conserve nature, just because it's nature. This mentality is missing in much of Africa. If the animals do not bring in clients, and the people do not have jobs that depend on those animals, then why would they care if there were healthy populations of those animals. It would certainly be easier for agriculture and safer for remote villages if some animals were gone completely. Thankfully, they are not wiped out because they have value.
A canned hunt for a cage raised lion has obvious moral implications. This is for each person to decide for themselves.
Lastly, I think we can all agree that there should be zero tolerance for anyone wishing the death of a fellow cgn member.
Sorry for the long post.
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