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Sudsy15

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I have been given this rifle as a gift, but only know a little bit about it. Its an Enfield, its .22, and it allegedly cost $800 from Wanstalls a couple years ago.

My question for you fine folks is, what is it really, and what is it worth?

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What does it say on the right side of the butt socket. It sorta looks like a Lee Metford. I am not too familiar with that one.
It lookls in great condition and $800 would be more than fair if it was original
 
I am surprised that the Lee-Enfield experts haven't chimed in to say whether it is an actual .22 trainer or not, so here's my two cents worth.
You are not asking if it is really a .22 I don't think but rather, if it is really a Lee-Enfield and really worth $800?
The volley sight crank and the general appearance say it is the real thing and so it is probably worth every bit of $800.
 
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Robert Nicholson said:
I am surprised that the Lee-Enfield experts haven't chimed in to say whether it is an actual .22 trainer or not.
You are not asking if it is really a .22 I don't think but rather, if it is really an Lee-Enfield and really worth $800?
The volley sight crank and the stampings say it is the real thing and so it is probably worth every bit of $800.
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Yeah, I'm sure its a .22, I know very little else. Thinking about selling it.
 
You were very lucky to receive such a nice/valuable gift. It looks to have been purpose built as a 22rf as well. You didn't include a photo of the left butt socket. There should be another flip up sight there to go with the volley sight. I can't tell you which specific model you have but if it is running in the same ball park as most training/cadet rifles I would place its value at over a thousand dollars to a collector. They are usually extremely accurate with "standard" velocity ammunition.
 
appears to be a rifle, RF Short,mk.II its missing the top wood and sporting the wrong mag. very nice , good luck getting the top wood.
 
gaff said:
appears to be a rifle, RF Short,mk.II its missing the top wood and sporting the wrong mag. very nice , good luck getting the top wood.
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If it is a Metford, it didn't have top wood forward of the rear sight. You can see the band is purpose built for the existing configuration.
 
A wild guess here. It could be a civilian conversion. The rear sight is not a 22 sight. The .22 markings are not military. I've never seen one quite like it. If it is a civilian conversion, the price would be substantially lower than a military purpose built but still up there.
All in all, I would still suspect it is worth the money.
 
1912 trainer

Royal Navy, should have a small N stamped below where the safety would be on a regular enfield. left side of the butt socket.

rebarreled in 1940.

it is missing a small bit of wood that would go behind the rear sight.


I have 2 both are built on Long Lee receivers.

one is original the other is converted to 22 Hornet.
 
You have a purpose-built .22 military training rifle. I know, I used to have one exactly like it many years ago and now kick my butt for letting it go. It has the volley sights intact as well as the windage adjustable rear sight which would have been set up for .22 shooting. The rear sight IS correct, as training at that time was for the old SMLE and they had that rear sight configuration, not peep sights. Lucky you! I sold mine years ago for $800, so yours is worth all of that. Hereabouts, I don't think $1000. would be unreasonable.
 
Sht.22 Mk.II Naval trainer

Sht.22 Mk.II Naval trainer.

I have two of them.

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Mine are both missing the handguard too.

They keep company with a Sht.22 Mk.I also missing its handguard.

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Long on going projects, but they are fun rifles to shoot.

As to value? No clue. I've spent a fortune on them restoring and I'm not done yet....

Now my search is for a Sht.22 mk.III
 

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I had one of those years ago. It is correct in all respects and identical to the one I had, including the volley sight. In many "value" threads I've mentioned that prices seem to vary from region to region, but if I saw one of those at one of the big gun shows hereabouts, I'd expect to see a price tag of no less than a grand and perhaps realistically, $1200.
 
It has nice condition wood. Most that I have seen have done the rounds in civilian hands and are usually sanded to death.

This one is missing the rear handguard which is not an easy part to find and will be quite expensive if you do find one. It is the complete and un-messed with examples that command the big bucks.

You can put any price tag on it that you want, but it would be an advanced collector who would be willing to shell out a grand for a .22 trainer, and this one is incomplete and will never be 100% original. Just sayin. If I had $1000 to spend on one for my collection, I would pass and keep looking. But that is me.

To most it is just another .22 plinker and a fun rifle to shoot. Keep it and enjoy!
 
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