LMT Barrel Issue (continued)

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I'm sorry about your luck blaxsun. I also bought a rifle (PWS) from Questar to have it show up without rifling in the barrel. I was furious, and confused how something like this could get in to the hands of the end used without anyone noticing. Since Questar had another upper in stock they sent me a shipping label, and sent me the new upper once they had possession of the old upper. I was pissed that I had to wait, but ultimately the did fix the problem in a reasonable time frame. I'm still pissed something like this get past a manufacturers QC department though.
 
Another on the boycott list till this is professionally resolved.

Get the feeling IBTL will apply first.

Even Sadder is the mods forcing this thread onto the dealer's forum. Money rules.
 
time for a policy change at Questar.

I have had returns with Reliable Gun, Wolverine, Wanstalls, DS Tactical, and TSE...all without issue. they actually appreciate my bussiness....
 
Questar should definitely try to handle this as well as it can be handled at this point. Between the two threads there are almost 10,000 views, so obviously people are keeping an eye on the situation, and this isn't exactly good publicity.
 
This is straightforward: if no replacement is immediately available, refund the customer, and deal with LMT yourselves. Why would the customer be inconvenienced for you selling a misrepresented product? Man up, do the right thing, and stop hiding behind a warranty policy that doesn't apply to a "new" product that obviously isn't.

DUH.
PAINFULLY OBVIOUS
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I can understand missing the defects in the bore...massive rust and scratches on a NEW product should equal automatic refund. PERIOD. No excuses, no blaming the manufacturer. Questar you have a LOT to learn and you have lost thousands of dollars in revenue over one barrel. As the dealer you are the ones who need to do the waiting for a refund and or replacement not the customer. Your business isn't going to last much longer if you keep this #### up.
 
time for a policy change at Questar.

I have had returns with Reliable Gun, Wolverine, Wanstalls, DS Tactical, and TSE...all without issue. they actually appreciate my bussiness....

You must have some serious bad luck or something...
 
What distinguishes a "great" company from merely an "ok" one is customer service (or lack thereof). Great customer service is more than just order fulfillment; in particular, it's how a company handles and resolves any issues and potential problems that defines it.

Nothing that I've posted here has been distorted or embellished. It's one thing to inadvertently send out a defective item; it's another to knowingly do it and claim that the condition is "consistent" with other items from a particular manufacturer. For those that think this is an acceptable practice, you may want to revise your expectations of "NIB"...

LMT has apologized. Twice, actually. I've yet to read or hear a single, solitary apology from the vendor. Was it really expecting too much for a "we're sorry for all the inconvenience" and "we appreciate your valued business"? Apparently so...

The simple truth is that it took several emails, a phone call (which I initiated) and several threads on CGN (the first of which was subsequently locked without a response) before I received any kind of satisfactory response. I've actually spent quite a bit of money with this vendor, and as I had mainly positive experiences in the past I was usually willing to write-off the occasional anomaly or miscommunication and continue to extend them the benefit of the doubt. If my most recent experience is any indication of what the future holds...
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So this is what I would like to see as a satisfactory conclusion to this. You agree to provide me with a refund for the barrel, less shipping and insurance. I will immediately return the barrel to you, with the shipping label you provided. We'll both call it a day and chalk up our respective time and shipping costs to lessons learned/applied.
 
Not to hijack this thread or anything, but I ordered an SU16 from another sponsor and the "abortions" over at Canada Post smashed a giant fist-sized hole in the box. There were scratches on the receiver and on the charging handle.

RETURNED THE GUN TO THE DEALER, WHO REPLACED IT WITH A NEW ONE!

I'll start a thread in the appropriate sponsors forum later praising them. Canada Post only covered them for $200 of insurance too. Anyway, its a shame you're getting hosed like this.

That is pure BS. That barrel looks like crap, Questar should take control of this situation and correct the issue at hand.
 
This was brought up in a former thread which was on the same topic as this one, crappy Questar service.

If a company feels the need to post such a lengthly lawyered up set of terms and conditions as this, I see that as a red flag, and warning for such problems in the future.

Can't say I have ever seen any other dealers with anything like this.

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i have a $1500 order "pending" with questar...it is now deleted out of my "wishlist"

great... now where do i find my spikes lower and magpul goodies?


i will consider re-placing my order once Blaxsun posts an agreeable resolution
 
i have a $1500 order "pending" with questar...it is now deleted out of my "wishlist"

great... now where do i find my spikes lower and magpul goodies?


i will consider re-placing my order once Blaxsun posts an agreeable resolution

CRAFM is dealing with gravel agency the importers for magpul, bush master etc. give dom, tara or jp a call
 
Nothing new with Questar, always hiding behind BS policies that make no sense. Bet they didnt take 4-12 weeks to take your cash. Reminds me of the time I ordered a Havoc launcher that cost over a grand, after the 14 weeks wait it showed up with the wrong stock and someone coloured the anodizing in with a sharpie to try and hide the damage on the rail. I was practically treated like a moron and was offered a 50 dollar refund
 
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Where th f**k is Questar? Why isn't there any reply from them in this mess. This has been going on too long....explain yourself.
 
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