Lmt mrp vs colt 6940

I can't give much real world experience advice with the colts but I own the LMT below and have had many fun filled days at the range with it. If only my pocket book would let me shoot it more! It's all I think about since I bought it.

Anyway I've never had a failure of any kind, the fit and finish is amazing, the accuracy is well above AR average (even with the light 55 grain bullets)(it shoots even better with heavier the bullets), the monolithc rail system not only looks cool but you can mount anything wherever you want it easily, and like mentioned above I'm planning to add a quick switch shorty barrel which changes with only 2 torqued hex nuts!!

Win, Win, Win situation

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Have you Read the Mag "SWAT" lately, they broke a Colt 6940 after firing over 17,000 rounds without cleaning it. I am not taking sides, and I have own Colt's, but this might add strength or less strength for who ever is on the side of Colt. For the average person, thats great, not so good if your a SF operator, and 1. they go through over 17k in rounds on one assaulter course one would assume. Food for thought, LMT and Colt are both great units I think, no sense in hashing it out. However the facts stand from that article from this past month, just food for thought, take it as you will. 2. I was a little dissapointed in Colt though.

1. I doubt it: and

2. Have you ever fired 17Krounds through anything - let alone without cleaning??

There's a big difference between some dude deployed on "Op Starbucks" (I giggle every time I read that) firing 17,000 rounds over the total time that he has the rifle (OK, in reality he'll never fire that many rounds but may wear the thing out fondling it), and a serious shooter going thru a like number of rounds in a short number of weeks or months...
 
Im a colt junkie, I dont care for the 6940 because the front gas block/sight combo that is supplied with it.

Which I think is better.........well who knows.
 
I absolutely love my LMT CQB/MRP piston gun. I picked up a spare 16" piston barrel and 12" piston barrel for it. The quick change and flexibility to use piston/ di was a good selling point for me.

I really need to buy another one, to mount the 12" barrel in it!!!
 
One interesting point that I did not hear anyone even mention was LMT's quick change barrel capability on the MRP.

Fact is that LMT offers a variety of barrel lenghts, calibre changes and even Gas Piston options for that LMT MRP rifle he bought and all of those swaps can be done in the field and in under 120 seconds.

That one MRP platform he has can go from a 10.5" up to an 18" SS barrel in moments... can change from .223/5.56 to 6.8 or 9mm or .22lr or even .204RUGER... it can go from a 16" Direct Impingement barrel to a 12" or 16" Gas Piston in the same time period. Of course every change can be reversed in the same time period.

Not quite so easy with the COLT :)

Mark

The barrel changing is kind of a neat feature but honestly, when I had my MRP, I never really used it. When you switch barrels, you have to change your sights. Of course you could always zero the sights with the longer barrel and just make do with the difference of POI when you swap to the short barrel. Kinda hokey though.
 
I think the idea is to match each barrel with its own sight (hence, nice to have repeatable zero QD mount) When a barrel is swapped, the optic is also swapped.
 
Have you Read the Mag "SWAT" lately, they broke a Colt 6940 after firing over 17,000 rounds without cleaning it. I am not taking sides, and I have own Colt's, but this might add strength or less strength for who ever is on the side of Colt. For the average person, thats great, not so good if your a SF operator, and they go through over 17k in rounds on one assaulter course one would assume. Food for thought, LMT and Colt are both great units I think, no sense in hashing it out. However the facts stand from that article from this past month, just food for thought, take it as you will. I was a little dissapointed in Colt though.

Read the SWAT article again... they had the gun for nearly 10 months as part of a COLT supported T&E program. It was used in numerous courses and during that time it was NOT cleaned so that COLT could gain valuable information on how it performed and reacted under such severe conditions and lack of maintenance. At 15,000 rounds COLT contacted them to arrange to have the gun sent back for inspection and testing... it was decided instead to allow the gun to continue on and see what happened. The gun finally failed just over 2,000 rounds later and though it is not confirmed there was a belief (stated by the author of the article) that the failure was likely caused by faulty ammo.

Why you would be "dissapointed by Colt" is beyond me. The gun performed admirably under unusual conditions and abuse. Final failure was NOT confirmed as even being the fault of the gun and was most likely ammunition (as is often the case). What do you expect? If it was indeed caused by ammunition then the exact same thing could have just as easily happened after 100 rounds.

My last point... when failure did occurr the COLT performed as it should, with the energy directed away from the shooter as much as possible so that injury was minimized.

Mark
 
Inreagrds to the last guy who responded to my post. It is fair to say I was a little dissappointed. You interpretated my disappointment to a different level though. I did read all of what the article said and yes I agree with you, no maintainance or cleaning and just shooting all kinds of different ammo is impressive to have survived that. I was just dissapointed the test ended as it did. I am sure you would agree it would have been great if the rifle kept firing, but hey, I was only a little disapointed and meaunt no offence to the quality at Colt. Besides who is ever going to shoot that much through their civie rifle anyway, or LEO member for that matter. The only reason I say I was a little dissapointed was because in the Canadian Forces, we would shoot alot (I know hard to believe sometimes, but I was Infantry), and the school rifles in St Jean Quebec were old, with carry handles etc, and the rifles in Wainwright as fo rthat matter were old, flat tops with Elcans, anyway, and those rifles had thousands and thousands of rounds through them, and often I would ask weapons techs, what if any problems they would come across and they said, extractors mainly, but other than that, they kept going. None to my knowledge ever blewup as in this months SWAT article. But hence why I was a _Little Dissappointed_ but in any event, 17,000 rounds is a hell of alot of ammo in one year and cudo's to Colt. On a Postive Note in "Guns and Ammo's -Combat Tactics-" (presented by Surefire)in Feb 02 2010 (page 89 for those interested), There was an article in there about the 6940 and 6920 and one firearms instructor said the 6920's used during training for classes seen thousands of rounds and they kept them lubed and they just kept on going. In the end, either way, Colt, LMT, C7 , C8, they are all fine rifles and get the job done when needed. There probably isn't to many operators in the world that fired 17,000 rounds in a single engagement, and is dissapoints me to see the FN SCAR and Bushmaster ACR (not that they are bad guns, just excellent and reliable, but they look different, I am sure old timers said this when AR15's came out, lol) come into play and possibly replace the AR15 design. I guess everything changes eventually. Oh well, a classic well used and remembered.
p.s. I owned a 6920 and logged 5985rounds through it,with no probs, and it only opened up a bit in it's groupings after 5000rounds.
 
I think the idea is to match each barrel with its own sight (hence, nice to have repeatable zero QD mount) When a barrel is swapped, the optic is also swapped.

The skeptic in me doubts the repeatability after changing many times. I will say though that I do and have frequently taken off my LaRue mounted optics and they seem to go back to the same spot every time. I guess you are right GT. :D

In any case, my vote is still with LMT.
 
Everybody and their grandma that is posting in this thread seems to own an LMT or just bought an LMT. What I wanna know is where are you guys buying from? I emailed Questar and told them I really want a LMT 10.5 CQB MRP and they emailed back and basically told me I'm outta luck because of all the rule changes going on in the US State Dept. Somebody, anybody please point me in the right direction! Or maybe one of you guys are thinking about selling, I'd be very interested.
 
Everybody and their grandma that is posting in this thread seems to own an LMT or just bought an LMT. What I wanna know is where are you guys buying from? I emailed Questar and told them I really want a LMT 10.5 CQB MRP and they emailed back and basically told me I'm outta luck because of all the rule changes going on in the US State Dept. Somebody, anybody please point me in the right direction! Or maybe one of you guys are thinking about selling, I'd be very interested.

There are seven 10.5" MRP uppers available at Questar right now. Check it out:

https://shopquestar.com/shopping65/shopexd.asp?id=1265&bc=no

Add ANY lower, BCG and Cocking handle and you are in business.

There is even a complete rifle in the EE right now. A little on the pricey side but it's there none the less!
 
Everybody and their grandma that is posting in this thread seems to own an LMT or just bought an LMT. What I wanna know is where are you guys buying from? I emailed Questar and told them I really want a LMT 10.5 CQB MRP and they emailed back and basically told me I'm outta luck because of all the rule changes going on in the US State Dept. Somebody, anybody please point me in the right direction! Or maybe one of you guys are thinking about selling, I'd be very interested.

Right now we are showing 7 of the 10.5" LMT MRP Uppers in stock... we also show BCG's and Charging handles for them (both S/A and F/A BCG's to choose from).

I'm pretty sure we can find you an LMT lower to go with the upper... you'd have yourself a complete 10.5" LMT rifle.

Thing to remember is that LMT doesn't sell 10.5" Rifle Packages commercially (just 16" and longer) so anything under 16" is something that Questar buys from LMT as complete uppers and complete lowers, then offers by combining factory uppers and lowers into complete rifles.

Send me an email and I'll see what I can do for you.

Mark
 
Some of us who have the MRPs bought them a few years ago. I think I bought one of the first lots that Questar had for sale. No its not for sale either.. ;)
 
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