Load development method : Optimal Charge Weight

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Warning! It is assumed that you are an experienced handloader who follows safe handloading practices. If you have not read and understood the basic instructions in a reputable loading manual (such as Sierra, Lyman, Speer, Nosler, Lee, or Hornady), please DO NOT continue here until you have done so. It is not my intention to bring the novice up to speed on case prep, safe bullet seating length, and such. There are scores of volumes written on these very basic handloading issues, so repeating such instructions here would seem redundant.

1. Decide on the bullet you want to use.

2. Choose a powder. This is probably the most important step in the whole process. As a rule, you should choose the slowest burning powder practical. There seem to be plenty of exceptions here, so if you have it on good authority that a slightly faster powder works well with the bullet/cartridge combo you're using, feel free to choose that powder. A couple of examples would be IMR 4350 in the 30-06 and IMR 3031 in the .243 Winchester. An aside: When in doubt, consult the Nosler manual for their "most accurate powder tested." That powder nearly always gives good results in the application listed.

3. Consult at least three load data sources for maximum charge weight for the powder you've selected. Powder manufacturers are the most reliable source. You must then decide on what your maximum charge will be.

4. Back away from the maximum charge by about 10 percent, and load one test round with this charge. Add 2% to the charge weight, and load another cartridge with that charge. Load a third test cartridge with the next 2% graduation. You will use these three cartridges for sighters, and more importantly to determine pressure tolerance in your individual rifle. They will also "season" the barrel with the powder that you're testing--always a good idea.

5. Add another 2% or so to the charge level used in cartridge #3 of step 4, and load three rounds with this charge weight (you may want to load four rounds, in case you pull a flyer, and need an extra). Add .7% to 1% to this charge, and load three more. Add that same graduation again, and load three more. Continue adding the chosen graduation until you have moved ONE increment above your chosen maximum powder charge. If I'm working with a .223 in the 20 grain powder charge area, I move in .2 grain increments. With the .243 and .308, I like to move in .3 grain increments, and with the 270 and 30-06 I might use .4 grain increments. The larger the cartridge, the larger the graduation.

6. The seating depth for all test loads should of course be the same. I normally seat the bullet a caliber's depth into the case, or to magazine length--whichever is shorter. I don't believe loading to approach the lands is necessary, or even desirable in most situations. So long as the bullets are seated straight, with as little runout as possible, the advantages of loading close to the lands are largely over-stated. This said, be certain that the seating depth you choose does not cram the bullet into the lands. Stay at least .020" or so off the lands for these excercises.

7. The primer brand you choose is entirely up to you. Use magnum primers only with magnum chamberings, as their added pressure can distort the OCW conclusions on standard chamberings. You might choose to try a magnum primer with your load recipe after you find the correct charge, as in limited situations a magnum primer will tighten your velocity numbers.

8. At the range, you should set up 5 to 7 targets at 100 yards. The number of targets you use will depend on how many "sets" of cartridges you loaded. Be sure the targets are identical, and level. I like to use a simple black square, drawn on a white background with a large felt tip marker. I draw the square about 3/4" (interior dimension) for my 9 power scope setting. This allows a "tight fit" of the crosshairs in the square, and thus a repeatable sight picture. For higher power scopes, draw the square smaller, and vice versa.

9. You can also put up one "sighter" target, and use the initial reduced rounds to get the POI on paper, as close to the bullseye as possible.

10. Your barrel should of course be clean before starting. Most barrels settle in to good accuracy with a controlled amount of copper fouling in the bore. (If a barrel won't shoot well fouled, the rifle may as well be a muzzle loader, right?) With a decent barrel, you will not need to clean during the test, and I don't advise cleaning until the test is complete.

11. After you have fired the sighters and confirmed that there are no pressure signs (hard bolt lift, flattened primers, etc.) you allow the barrel to cool for an adequate amount of time (use common sense--the hotter it is outside, the longer it will need to cool) you will then fire your first shot from the first group of the graduated charges. You fire this shot at target number 1.

12. Allow the barrel to cool, then fire a shot from the second graduation at target number 2. Wait for cooling of the barrel, then fire a shot from the third graduation at target number 3. Continue this "round robin" sequence until you have been through all of the targets three times. At this point you will have a three shot group on each of the targets.

13. It is assumed that you are an experienced reloader, and that you know to watch for pressure signs on each of the increasing charges. Fire the subsequent charge only if there are no pressure signs on the previous charge. You can safely fire the heaviest charge you loaded so long as the next charge under it showed no pressure signs. This "heaviest charge" should be about 1% over your selected maximum charge, but will be safe so long as the next lowest graduation showed no pressure signs. It is necessary to test this slightly higher charge level since the OCW might end up being right on the published maximum.

14. Triangulate the groups. This means to connect all three shots in a triangular form, and determine the center of the group, and plot that point on the target. Measure this point's distance and direction from the bullseye, and record the information somewhere on the target. Do this for all of the targets. If you have a called flyer, you should discount that shot, or replace it in the group if you have an additional round loaded with that charge (and having a fourth round is always a good idea).

15. You will now look for the three groups which come the closest to hitting the same POI (point of impact) on the targets. The trend of the groups should be obvious, normally (but not always!) going from low and favoring one side, to high and favoring the other side. But along the progression, there should be a string of at least three groups that all hit the target in the same relative point.

16. After you have carefully measured group sizes and distances and directions from the bullseye, you will know which three groups come the closest to hitting the target in the same POI. You now choose the powder charge which represents the center of this string. For example, if 34.7, 35.0, and 35.3 grains all grouped about 1.5 inches high, and about 3/4 of an inch right of the bullseye, you would choose the 35.0 grain charge as your OCW (optimal charge weight). This charge will allow 34.7 and 35.3 grain charges to group right with it. This will be a very "pressure tolerant" or "resilient" load.

17. Remember, don't get "bowled over" by a tiny group which falls outside the OCW zone. You can tune any of the groups to be tiny with bullet seating depth changes. After you have determined the OCW, you may want to try seating the bullets deeper or longer in .005" or .010" increments to see where your particular rifle does its best. If you're a real stickler for accuracy, you can do another "round robin" test using varied seating depths, perhaps in .003" increments. Look for at least two seating depth stages that hit the same POI and group tight as well. This said, I have often found that OCW recipes are so reliable that seating depth alterations--especially for game hunting cartridges--often don't seem necessary.

18. Your next step would be to confirm your load recipe at the maximum range you will expect to use it. Load one round about 1% below, and another round about 1% above the OCW charge, and fire a three shot group with these two charges plus the standard charge at the maximum range you will require the load to be accurate at. You should note MOA, or very close to MOA grouping...

19. The OCW load development plan works best with rifles and shooters that are actually capable of MOA accuracy. If your rifle has not shown a propensity for reasonable accuracy, you may want to have it corrected before wasting time and material with additional load developement. If you are not confident that you are at a level where you can shoot consistent MOA groups, you may want to hold off on intricate load development until your skills are better honed. Lots of practice with a scoped .22 LR is invaluable...

20. I would sincerely recommend using shooting glasses during the firing sequences of ANY load testing. You can never be too careful here... And please know that anytime you embark on load development, you're basically on your own. Just like any provider of load data or development instructions, I must mention that I accept no responsibility whatsoever for any occurrences which are outside the realm of your expectations...

This has never been a method I've used often, but have done a few times just to see what'd happen. Nowadays, I am just as interested in testing the bad results as I am the good stuff

Have done two this winter, will post up my results
 
OCW 1.0
Tikka T3x CTR 223 Rem
55gr Nosler Ballistic Tip
IMR 4895
Nosler brass / CCI BR4
.034" off lands

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Loaded from 24.30 to 27.00grs in 0.3gr increments

100 meter target

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25.80, 26.10, 26.4grs were the three consecutive charge weights with the least variation in impact location , so I picked 26.10grs as my optimal charge weight

24.9, 25.2, 25.5 had the biggest variation, so I picked 25.20 as ANTI NODE

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I loaded 30 rounds at 26.10 (OCW) and 30 rounds at 25.20 (ANTI NODE) and shot them at 215 yards in calm conditions. Fired 10 shot, letting it cool, repeat

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Results very similar, the 26.10grs OCW load had a larger extreme spread group size, but a slightly better mean radius than the Anti Node load
 
Any plans for further testing with seating depth?
not on this one as I ran out of IMR 4895. With a 1.3moa 30 shot group though, it's pretty happy at the tested jump

I did a seating depth test on OCW 2.0 (6.5cm Howa), will post up soon
 
OCW 1.0
Tikka T3x CTR 223 Rem
55gr Nosler Ballistic Tip
IMR 4895
Nosler brass / CCI BR4
.034" off lands

OI9guf6.jpeg


Loaded from 24.30 to 27.00grs in 0.3gr increments

100 meter target

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25.80, 26.10, 26.4grs were the three consecutive charge weights with the least variation in impact location , so I picked 26.10grs as my optimal charge weight

24.9, 25.2, 25.5 had the biggest variation, so I picked 25.20 as ANTI NODE

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I loaded 30 rounds at 26.10 (OCW) and 30 rounds at 25.20 (ANTI NODE) and shot them at 215 yards in calm conditions. Fired 10 shot, letting it cool, repeat

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Results very similar, the 26.10grs OCW load had a larger extreme spread group size, but a slightly better mean radius than the Anti Node load

My interpretation of your data is that we must conclude the concept of "nodes" and "optical charge weights" is debunked.
 
No, his test is not done. I think 26.1 could be near the end of a node so it won’t be stable, that’s why even though the group is large it still has a big cluster in it.
Also if you change your target to one long horizontal line with target dots, and go left to right, you can see patterns easier.
 
Tod,
Although your results seem good, they probably would be better if you had taken into account the velocity of your loads as well. You want to make sure that you have low ES and low SD for any load you choose, especially if you want to shoot long range.
A ladder test with small increments of powder and one shot for each increment is what I do. I look for the velocity node, then I load 3 or 5 shots groups based on that node and eventually adjust seating depth. I learned it from Erik Cortina. It works for him and for me as well. Very consistent loads.
 
It’s usually where the fps between several neighboring charges produces a similar or lower fps increment than the others.
Just cant get my mind around how that can happen. Other than being within the normal distribution for the velocities and certainly all the work done by Litz does not seem to support it.
 
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Just cant get my mind around how that can happen. Other than being within the normal distribution for the velocities and certainly all the work done by Litz does not seem to support it.
Litz is very statistically smart.
He does not believe in resonance however.
I’m not sure what his stance is on positive compensation either.
Lots of top shooters don’t follow all of Litz’s ideas to the full extent. Long range target shooting would be finished if you had to shoot your barrel completely out in order to get a proper statistical representation of a load by shooting so many rounds. ( even if a person could afford it ) Competition shooters can collect data, especially if they are shooting the same equipment and loads over and over, to mimic huge strings of fire and they base their starting points off that. What they learn helps for a caliber change as well.
I think what we can sometimes see in a test in regards to one day a load is great, but the next day it’s not repeating can be attributed to other factors like humidity, wind, temp, shooting skill etc. The change needed to get the load back to shooting, for that day, is usually small. A tenth of powder, a thou or two of seating depth or a twist of a tuner for example. Even at close range, some folks can look at group shapes and determine an action required to correct it. Watch Jack Neary/Eric Cortina interview for example. Non of those on the fly corrections can be made by shooting groups of 100 rounds to determine the best way to move forward.
 
Just cant get my mind around how that can happen. Other than being within the normal distribution for the velocities and certainly all the work done by Litz does not seem to support it.
Correct. It cannot be explained by any mechanism of the physical system. In other words, it doesn't exist, and is only caused by humans assigning phenomena to what is merely noise.
 
It’s certainly possible that it is an anomaly that the fps level out for a certain few charge weights. Maybe the vibration in the barrel may have something to do with it. Maybe the speed in which the brass expands in the case body vs the expansion in the case neck changes. Who knows. I only use my chronograph to find my max charge weight speed on my initial pressure test, then when my load is finished to see what I got.
 
Tod,
Although your results seem good, they probably would be better if you had taken into account the velocity of your loads as well. You want to make sure that you have low ES and low SD for any load you choose, especially if you want to shoot long range.
A ladder test with small increments of powder and one shot for each increment is what I do. I look for the velocity node, then I load 3 or 5 shots groups based on that node and eventually adjust seating depth. I learned it from Erik Cortina

I did measure all rounds fired for velocity. But OCW load development doesn't require a chronograph, so I didn't include the data. I've done the Satterlee velocity node method for this same rifle, with the same components. But that's for another thread!

Tod,
Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but might we just be seeing the inherent weakness of a 3 shot group in deciding anything?

3 shot groups are quick, easy and leave you with lots of bullets left in the box at home! They don't appear to be the best at assessing future probability of results on targets. About 25 years ago, I got a 300 meter 0.75" 3 shot group with my prized Remington 700 Mtn Rifle chambered in 260 Remington. I remember walking back to the bench, pumped on life - finally my rifle has found the magic load! Next 3 shot with same load was at 100 meters, was almost 2" - ooof - what happened?!? That situation has repeated itself many times over the years

Correct. It cannot be explained by any mechanism of the physical system. In other words, it doesn't exist, and is only caused by humans assigning phenomena to what is merely noise.

This seems to be very common in the handloading scene!
 
3 shot groups are quick, easy and leave you with lots of bullets left in the box at home! They don't appear to be the best at assessing future probability of results on targets. About 25 years ago, I got a 300 meter 0.75" 3 shot group with my prized Remington 700 Mtn Rifle chambered in 260 Remington. I remember walking back to the bench, pumped on life - finally my rifle has found the magic load! Next 3 shot with same load was at 100 meters, was almost 2" - ooof - what happened?!? That situation has repeated itself many times over the years
I’ve had this exact same thing happen many times, always came up with an excuse as to why after “finding the node” I’d still shoot a crap group. It’s all part of the noise, learned this a few years back now and haven’t looked back
 
Add powder until I hit pressure signs. Then pick a a speed I want to shoot that is about 70 fps back from the pressure signs.

If the groups are terrible, try different bullets.
I find myself doing things very similar to that more and more often.
Pick bullet.
Find lands.
Find pressure/velocity.
Rock on🤘


It’s almost logical.
If its not a/the bullet I want to use I don’t care if it shoots.

Lands? Well, across the few decades I’ve been loading seating to the lands has usually been my best bet. Might as well start there.


Pressure/Velocity. It shouldn’t be too shocking that powder tend to burn consistently at the pressure it was designed to be used at. Velocity? If I’m not getting the speed I don’t care if it shoots. Might as well quit and save the bullets. Start over with a different powder, or adjust your expectations.

Rock on is just that. Take it out to distance and find out if you have a load or not. Good rifles want to shoot. When one takes hundreds of rounds to work up a load I start wondering whats wrong with it.😂
 
For y’all that don’t believe in nodes, what is your process?

I just question that nodes exist, I won't say they don't exist - the testing to prove that would be never ending

I pick a bullet I want to use, knock about 5% off the max load and load up ten rounds each with a few different powders (anywhere from 3 to 10 types). Seating depth will be at least .030 off lands, .050 off for monometals (or as long as mag lengths allow)

I'll fire the loads, in 3-5 round strings depending on barrel contour and intended use (hunting vs target) at 200 meters. Ending up with ten round group, which is measured for group size, mean radius. I will adjust the charge weight up or down, depending on what I am looking for. I'll retest the best results with 15 round groups, eventually what works the best will rise to the top
 
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