London Ontario Police put down injured deer...

antiqueguy said:
i think they should also issue a "despatcher" in .38 for the shotgun and full wad cutter rounds less mess and if placed right it will be done and over with in one shot
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I've tried a few types of sub-calibre adaptors for a 12 gauge shotgun. One in 22 magnum, one in 22 LR, the other in 38/357. These shell sized devices are pretty marginal IMO. The slug shooter LNIB shotgun and these things could not even hit a popcan @20 yards. One was made by Dina Arms, the others by a big company out of California and the name escapes me right now. Useless fits the description to a 't'.
Now I have used also a nine inch version (Dina Arms) in a 22/20 gauge Savage 24C. That one was alright with 357 ammo.
 
Deer are extremely tough animals. Hit them solid with a locomotive at 40 mph, they roll, get up and book it. Hit a moose like that their backs get broken and they don't get up. Smoked a deer on the hwy on a deadhead once and we stopped to make sure it was dead. It got up from the ditch and hit the bush running. The bumper was dinted. These guys took care of business with the tools at hand. Deer are hard to kill when their blood is already up. Not really the same as a hunting kill shot where you are in control of the situation.
 
Brutus said:
I've tried a few types of sub-calibre adaptors for a 12 gauge shotgun. One in 22 magnum, one in 22 LR, the other in 38/357. These shell sized devices are pretty marginal IMO. The slug shooter LNIB shotgun and these things could not even hit a popcan @20 yards. One was made by Dina Arms, the others by a big company out of California and the name escapes me right now. Useless fits the description to a 't'.
Now I have used also a nine inch version (Dina Arms) in a 22/20 gauge Savage 24C. That one was alright with 357 ammo.
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dont need much accuracy when the muzzle is only a few inches away
 
antiqueguy said:
i think they should also issue a "despatcher" in .38 for the shotgun and full wad cutter rounds less mess and if placed right it will be done and over with in one shot
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I agree. My friend is an RCMP officer and showed me around their detachment once. They had a poster with the proper target locations to dispatch injured wildlife or livestock. I would assume that you would have more load options in the rural areas than in populated areas.
 
It's pretty much a no win situation having to do that with folks watching and filming. If he'd have used a rifle or a slug he'd have probably caught it from his boss.
My father did nuisance trapping ( Beaver) for the city and half the folks want to buy you a drink and the other half are going to phone the police.
No-win, do the best you can and be polite ( and curt) when John Q. Public criticizes you. There is always going to be someone who will tell you that you did ( or are doing)it wrong.
As my father would say " another s--thouse door flies open"
 
I dont think a sigle projectile in an urban enviroment is an option in that situation , however i think a close range single shot with buckshot from behind and above between the antlers would have bin my first choice there.
 
i hit a deer in a company ford escort years ago she hit drivers windshield and mirror then the fella behind went over her as she laid on the road ...we dragged her to the edge and thought she was dead ..but she started trying to get up with two broken legs ..she laid down with her head on the pavement and i quikly put the car in reverse right over her head ...she was done ...called the cops and the frikkin dispatch was givin me crap for putting it out of its misery ..i just told her to imagine the think floppin on the road trying to stand and get over it ...i had to wait 2 hours for a cop to write up the incendent report (company car and insurance) when she got there she thought the deer was still alive and asked me if i could shoot it ...i am not kidding ...she was releaved when i told her it was dead ...i finally got done around 2am i hit the deer at 1030 blood and broken mirror and windshield left to the next day ....should have seen the looks i got driving it to the car wash ....also my ex brother in law is OPP he was in Caladon near toronto he had to put down quite a few deer in his day he used and mini 14 always a head shot but he was in the country ..
 
The best I saw was an OPP officer dispatched a steer with a .40 Sig. A re-load was needed, and he sent people running as the bullets skipped along the hide and poped out from other parts of the animal.
 
rather the deer flop around a bit then send chunks of lead through the residential buildings or skip a slug into a schoolgirl down the street. This isn't shooting a deer in the bush
 
ryan32 said:
rather the deer flop around a bit then send chunks of lead through the residential buildings or skip a slug into a schoolgirl down the street. This isn't shooting a deer in the bush
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Most police departments forbid thier 'regular patrol officers' from using solid slugs of any kind. So your scenario of a errant slug is not realistic.
Myself I would rather see a suffering animal put out of it's misery.
 
First of all no thats not true or at least not the ones that im aware of
second of all switch out the word slug with buckshot pellets. They are shooting in a city in a non emergent scenario. Sorry its a deer its not worth risking peoples lives to kill it
 
Oh well a deer got hit by a car and then shot by a cop. Sure it could've been done better and I'm sure if there was a cop who was a hunter on duty and was close by they would have asked him or her to attend to put the animal down. For all we know the officer grew up in Toronto, has never killed an animal or even seen a deer that close before. In any event I've seen some pretty sideways sh#t performed in the field during deer season by "experienced hunters".
 
.22 LR... nuff said. Stand back about a meter away and the animal will look up at you quizzically offering a 1-10 second window with which to line up your shot. Get any closer and this "spooks" the animal into escape attempts. Aim directly behind the ear, as the skull is thinnest there. Make sure your bullet impacts squarely, and voila! One entrance wound, one dead animal, zero exit wounds. It doesn't get anymore "instant" then that. All you need to do is enter the skull cavity... .22 LR is Absolutley sufficient. Tried and TESTED.
 
I dosed a car struck deer with buckshot once for the local police. Killed a small doe by the Anderson road exit on the 417 with a Benchmark knife once as well.

The average police officer is barely profficient with their service weapons and are generally not trained to deal with fuzzy creatures.

I have often thought that a local hunter should be "on-call" for animal strikes, not only to dispatch humanely but also to recover meat.
 
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