I have started casting lead bullets recently and I would like to replace my factory glock barrel with an aftermarket barrel with standard rifling. I am looking for a Black oxide Lone Wolf barrel for my Glock 17 (Standard length barrel) but no one seems to have some in stock in Canada.. Anyone knows where I could find one?
Lone Wolf Barrel for Glock 17
- Thread starter Jordi09
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Just wondering about the reason to replace a stock G17 barrel?
All the 9mm G's handle lead bullets quite well, so unless you're looking for a threaded barrel to a add a compensator, or you're trying to get a more "accurate" barrel, there is no need to replace the barrel to use lead bullets.
However, if you screw up your bullet lead mix, you could have problems with any barrel!
If you are set on an aftermarket barrel, look at Glockparts.com - they ship to Canada.
All the 9mm G's handle lead bullets quite well, so unless you're looking for a threaded barrel to a add a compensator, or you're trying to get a more "accurate" barrel, there is no need to replace the barrel to use lead bullets.
However, if you screw up your bullet lead mix, you could have problems with any barrel!
If you are set on an aftermarket barrel, look at Glockparts.com - they ship to Canada.
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- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
Why bother? I have shot hundreds of lead rounds through my Glock 17 with no issues. I just recently switched to AIM plated bullets but only for the easier cleaning. As long as you clean your barrel after every couple hundred rounds you will have no issues. And you have to have an appropriate lead mixture, or you will get heavy leading no matter what barrel you use.
mudgunner49
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Bad data - there are numerous instances of Gocks of any caliber KBooming because lead was used and the barrel was not properly cleaned. The rifling in factory Glock barrels has a tendency to build up deposits thus raising pressures dangerously and quite unpredictably - not cool at all...
- Location
- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
This is nothing but internet rumour. Myself and thousands of shooters put lead handloads through Glocks constantly. Do you have any proof. There is several expertss who will tell you the rifling in a glock is actually better for shooting lead. There is no sharp rifling like the traditional barrels have that will tear the lead from the bullet as it passes through the barrel. I have a suspision that most Kbooms are from double charges not lead build up, and the idiot that loaded them use the glock rifling as an excuse instead of admitting to poor reloading precautions. Stop spreading these ridiculous rumours please. All you have to do is a google search and you will find plenty of discussion about this, and the consensus is as long as you keep your barrel clean (just like any other gun) you will have no issues shooting lead.
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- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
Accuracy maby, I am just sick of people repeating the internet rumours about lead in Glocks. I find my glock is very accurate with the factory barrel. I get consistant fist sized groups at 25 yards. If you want better accuracy than that you shouldn't be shooting a glock if you ask me. These are tactical pistols not trget guns. They can be made into one but I'd vote for a 1911 if you want to shoot bullseye style. Trigger is everything.
+1 for mlehtovaara.
I've personally shot in excess of 50k lead bullets through my G19 & 26. Initially through the stock barrel, but I had to change to Lone Wolf because of Canadian requirements. This over a period of 8 years, under all conditions - IPSC included. So have several of my buddies. Not a single problem.
Octagonal rifling building up lead? If there is no lead build-up in a barrel after firing on full-auto in a G18, there will not be in a normal Glock. Been there, done it.
Do the math: Thousands of Glocks in the market. Millions of rounds fired. Statistically there will be issues - nothing is perfect. Does not mean there is a problem.
Use high quality bullets, double check your powder charges.
But by all means, if you have the funds, and if you feel safer, shoot plated or commercial ammo only.
I've personally shot in excess of 50k lead bullets through my G19 & 26. Initially through the stock barrel, but I had to change to Lone Wolf because of Canadian requirements. This over a period of 8 years, under all conditions - IPSC included. So have several of my buddies. Not a single problem.
Octagonal rifling building up lead? If there is no lead build-up in a barrel after firing on full-auto in a G18, there will not be in a normal Glock. Been there, done it.
Do the math: Thousands of Glocks in the market. Millions of rounds fired. Statistically there will be issues - nothing is perfect. Does not mean there is a problem.
Use high quality bullets, double check your powder charges.
But by all means, if you have the funds, and if you feel safer, shoot plated or commercial ammo only.
mudgunner49
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
"are several experts"...
Rifling does not tear lead from bullets, it engraves the bullet. You need a class or two on ballistics and firearms theory. If anyone is spouting "internet hyperbole" (my word, not yours) it is you and not I.
Whatever - I have personally blown up or seen blown up 3 Glocks, 2 x .40 cal and 1 x .45, and all with lead. All were utilizing powder that made double charging the case impossible and all were shooting lead. But your experience (probably with one pistol) is obviously greater than mine. You will also note that I stated in my post that you need to clean, and more diligently (that means lots) if you wish to assume the risk of shooting lead...
from my post - "there are numerous instances of Gocks of any caliber KBooming because lead was used and the barrel was not properly cleaned"...
blake
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I as not trying to start a fight here Blake I just think that too many people read posts like yous and run out to buy an aftermarket barrel for the wrong reasons. I will not argue with you blake. You are much to knowledgeable. I understand how rifling affects a bullet but if you look up the word engraving it would suggest lead is removed from the bullet. The rifling does shave some lead off of the bullet otherwise you would not have leading, and jacketed bullets would not foul barrels either. Unless you are shooting hot loads and using soft lead. People need to know that under normal shooting conditions lead will do just fine in a glock, and thousands of people have experienced the same results as me. If you are planning on putting 500 rounds in your gun in a day than I wouldn't recommend lead from any gun, but 100 rounds is not gonna do anything but put a smile on your face. Spend the 200 bucks on ammo.
Guys - the query is about a G17, not any of the 357 SIG, 10mm, 40 or 45's. The 9mmP, (with the NATO pressure rating), is the design platform of the original Glock - problems with these are almost non-existent.
(Apologies to the thread owner for what almost ended up as a thread hijacking.)
If you have a G17, enjoy, and shoot the thing - lots! No need to fit an aftermarket barrel - the stock barrel is more accurate than most shooters anyway. Remember - it's a military weapon, not a target pistol.
(Apologies to the thread owner for what almost ended up as a thread hijacking.)
If you have a G17, enjoy, and shoot the thing - lots! No need to fit an aftermarket barrel - the stock barrel is more accurate than most shooters anyway. Remember - it's a military weapon, not a target pistol.
hatman1793
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Mudgunner49 is Right!
Those are not rumours they are solid truth. Should you wish proof, all you have to do is get a copy of "The Glock in Competition." Various chapters are dedicated to not using lead in factory barrels and the consquences.
You can see for yourself. Its all documented there with pictures and text.
Those are not rumours they are solid truth. Should you wish proof, all you have to do is get a copy of "The Glock in Competition." Various chapters are dedicated to not using lead in factory barrels and the consquences.
You can see for yourself. Its all documented there with pictures and text.
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- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
Why are we gonna keep arguing about this. Some say it is B.S. some say it is gospel truth. My point is don't listen to people research it yourself and make a decision. I and thousands of others put lead through a factory Glock barrel with no issues. Some have had kbooms but most of the time these are with .40 cal Glocks. The one in question is a 9mm. If you are glad to spend the money on a different barrel than go for it.
mudgunner49
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
There are too many variables at play here to state simply "use lead in Glocks" or on the other side of the coin "don't use lead in Glocks". The big problem is our litigious society and what the manufacturer has to deal with when people tend to not follow their directions. The adage "buyer beware" has some merit here, as does the old saying "you pay your money and you take your chances"...
Can you do it? Sure, but to say that it is possible is not the same as saying that it is advisable - once again, too many variables.
Oh, and the majority of lead left in a barrel comes from the base of the bullet that is affected by burning propellant and gas cutting...
blake
+1....and after market barrels are fully supported, helping to eliminate the "Glock bulge".....These so-called Glock Ka-Booms are usually the result of handloading to high pressures and over-using the brass...Brass doesn`t last forever!....But some people are too cheap to realize this and over-extend the brass.....
I`ve been reloading cast lead for my Glock 22 for 17 years, and never had a problem....
