long gun storage confirmation
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Canadian_Zuk
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Pickering, Ontario
yup, trigger locked and ammo stored separately.
DiabeticKripple
CGN Regular
- Location
- Red Deer, Alberta
although legal with just a trigger/cable lock, id highly recommend a safe or cabinet.
From here,
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-209/FullText.html
STORAGE OF NON-RESTRICTED FIREARMS
5.#(1)#An individual may store a non-restricted firearm only if
(a)#it is unloaded;
(b)#it is
(i)#rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device,
(ii)#rendered inoperable by the removal of the bolt or bolt-carrier, or
(iii)#stored in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into; and
(c)#it is not readily accessible to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored, together with or separately from the firearm, in a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into.
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-209/FullText.html
STORAGE OF NON-RESTRICTED FIREARMS
5.#(1)#An individual may store a non-restricted firearm only if
(a)#it is unloaded;
(b)#it is
(i)#rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device,
(ii)#rendered inoperable by the removal of the bolt or bolt-carrier, or
(iii)#stored in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into; and
(c)#it is not readily accessible to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored, together with or separately from the firearm, in a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into.
DiabeticKripple
CGN Regular
- Location
- Red Deer, Alberta
i have my long rifle trigger locked in a locked hard case. but once i move (in a month) im buying a safe.
cases are bad for trapping moisture. i have some silica gel packets that i put in with the gun and havent had any rust in 2 months..
DiabeticKripple
CGN Regular
- Location
- Red Deer, Alberta
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thepolinator
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Sudbury, ON
You could also remove the firing pin if you are short on trigger locks
While effective for disabling the firearm, I do not believe this by itself will meet the letter of the storage law. You would still need the secure locking device, or cabinet/safe.
- Location
- West Quebec
Would it not be the same as removing the bolt?
Removal of the bolt satisfies the legal requirement for storage of a non restricted firearm.
STORAGE OF NON-RESTRICTED FIREARMS
5.#(1)#An individual may store a non-restricted firearm only if
(a)#it is unloaded;
(b)#it is
(i)#rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device,
(ii)#rendered inoperable by the removal of the bolt or bolt-carrier, or
(iii)#stored in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into; and
(c)#it is not readily accessible to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored, together with or separately from the firearm, in a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into.
I could be wrong but I think the law states if the fire arm is rendered unusable it is safe to store or display. any one can buy a firing pin without a p.a.l. so that is not really unusable. also don't buy a generic lock I have opened more then one persons trigger lock at the range because they forgot their keys at home.
- Location
- Ft. Mac. Alberta
The requirements are for safe storage and handling IR unauthorized use( kids or someone not familiar with fire arms ), NOT anti theft!
Even a cheap lock is quite alright for storage , if a thief wants to use the gun all they have to do it drill out the tumlber on a trigger lock, pick the lock, or simply take two vise grips and twist it off!
Cat
Even a cheap lock is quite alright for storage , if a thief wants to use the gun all they have to do it drill out the tumlber on a trigger lock, pick the lock, or simply take two vise grips and twist it off!
Cat
This is wrong, it simply needs to be rendered inoperable to the average person at that time. You can buy a bolt and have a gunsmith fit it without a PAL too, and I don't know any gunsmith that will check your pal when you bring a gun in.
The law is that it must be rendered inoperable. I've spoken to rcmp, cps, and the cfc about this, more for curiosity sake but then one of my buddy's got into shooting and couldn't afford a cabinet right away was just curious what the law was.
The cops both told me that they would actually prefer to see the bolt/firing pin/trigger group etc removed yo disable the gun AND a trigger lock AND inside a safe, because that's going to be the most secure.
When I called them on it they said sure that's pretty unrealistic, if you pulled the bolt and trigger locked it that's still pretty good, but if you were in a pinch then disabling it in any way, such as removing the trigger group if it comes out easy enough, removing the bolt or firing pin if easy enough, removing the barrel, etc, would all be sufficient to meet the requirements of the law.
They said that the law is not about theft it is ti prevent the firearms from being used on impulse. They all agreed that with respect to theft, if someone wants it bad enough they will get it and if they really wanted to make that particular gun work they could. But both cops also told me that they hand seem more than just a couple instances where stolen long guns were actually thrown away by the thieves after they realized that there was a missing piece that was critical to the functioning of the gun.
Hence, hide the bolt somewhere else in the house that is not obvious, and you can keep the gun on the living room wall or behind the front door or wherever you damn well please. They don't prefer that because they would obviously prefer we don't even have them in the first place, but the law is the law
blasted_saber
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- A blue part of Ontario
Hardcase is a bad idea for storage. The foam traps moisture and holds it against your gun, which will cause rust problems. Its better (and legal) to just trigger lock it and store it in a closet, in a corner, under the bed, etc.
If you lock the case, you don't even require a trigger lock.
I have stored my firearms in foam lined cases for many years, with no issues with rust or corrosion. I give the foam a light mist of G-96 gum treatment, and it soaks into the foam, providing vapors that prevent rust or corrosion from forming on the firearms. The main thing to watch out for, is to never put any damp firearm into a case, or the case will help to hold the moisture, and promote rust.
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