Long Range .22lr

MasterChaud555

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Just wondering if there's anyone out there pushing the practical limits of a .22. I recently moved and have access to a 600yd range, so just for fun I've been practicing long range .22 shooting. 200 yds is pretty easy for me now as I'm able to hit a 6" plate very consistently. Unfortunately my scope and base don't have enough elevation adjustment so 300 and 400 yds is all hold over and not as consistent. I'm going to be upgrading my scope and base right away.

Rifle is a Savage Mark II FV-SR in a Boyds stock. Scope is a Vortex Crossfire II 4-12x40 AO. My gun seems to do very well with most ammo. Particularly CCI standard and Winchester 333/555.

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MasterChaud555 said:
Unfortunately my scope and base don't have enough elevation adjustment so 300 and 400 yds is all hold over and not as consistent. I'm going to be upgrading my scope and base right away.
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Shim the front scope ring if you are wanting to shoot farther out, you lose the up close but it gets the job done. You can make shims from an aluminum coke can with tin snips and very find sandpaper
 
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Shim the front scope ring if you are wanting to shoot farther out, you lose the up close but it gets the job done. You can make shims from an aluminum coke can with tin snips and very find sandpaper
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Incorrect, that would reduce the range of the scope. Shim the rear ring to gain elevation.
 
I was actually just thinking about getting an EGW 20 moa base. But now you've got me thinking about shimming. How much adjustment might i be able to get from shimming?
 
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I was actually just thinking about getting an EGW 20 moa base. But now you've got me thinking about shimming. How much adjustment might i be able to get from shimming?
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Depends on how far apart your scope mounts are.

They also have adjustable scope mounts that basically have the shim part built in and they work sort of like a 'course' elevation adjustment. (typically a few MOA per click)
 
Hmmm well you've given me some food for thought. I think I'll still be going with the 20 moa base and with my new scope i should have another 30 moa of adjustment. If i need more than that I'll shim. Might need it for 500-600 yds :D
 
You should look at a online ballistics calculator to figur out what you need. I used to shoot a lot out to 300 yards with an 80 moa scope and a shim based so that i used the full range of the scope shooting from 100 to 300. The balistic coefficient and velocity of 22 lr is low so it drops a lot. With the rught scope and bases you sight it in at 600 yards however you could not be able to sight it in for 100 with the same ring and base.
 
here's my thoughts on scope choice for that intended purpose.
my setup is a 452, with a (rather) cheap weaver 40/44 BDC (x-weaver) zeroed at 65yd

get a known and mainstream BDC reticle in 2nd focal plane.

using a ballistic calculator App, (istrelok) and with a known reticle, the app gives information about hold-over and you can just dial in the magnification and get the holdover target on the line without guestimating height.
Like you, im pretty consistent at 200yd (altho my plate is 8"), and without changing the zero i can range all the way to 327 yd. by using the reticle holdover lines & lower magnification
heres what the app looks like. I still get to have a rifle zeroed for normal hunting distance, without dialing elevation, on a "cheap" setup that might not track like a 3k$ S&B
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if zeroed at 200 i get my 303yd mark on the lower post at 9x, 350 @ 6x and 400 @ 4.25x
 
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You should look at a online ballistics calculator to figur out what you need. I used to shoot a lot out to 300 yards with an 80 moa scope and a shim based so that i used the full range of the scope shooting from 100 to 300. The balistic coefficient and velocity of 22 lr is low so it drops a lot. With the rught scope and bases you sight it in at 600 yards however you could not be able to sight it in for 100 with the same ring and base.
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Ya I don't really think I'll be able to make it out to 600 confidently and still be able to maintain my 50 yd zero. 500-600 is a bit of a pipe dream for me haha. My main goal is for 300-400 yds. Even at 300 yds there's about 120 some inches of drop from the muzzle
 
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here's my thoughts on scope choice for that intended purpose.
my setup is a 452, with a (rather) cheap weaver 40/44 BDC (x-weaver) zeroed at 65yd

get a known and mainstream BDC reticle in 2nd focal plane.

using a ballistic calculator App, (istrelok) and with a known reticle, the app gives information about hold-over and you can just dial in the magnification and get the holdover target on the line without guestimating height.
Like you, im pretty consistent at 200yd (altho my plate is 8"), and without changing the zero i can range all the way to 327 yd. by using the reticle holdover lines & lower magnification
heres what the app looks like. I still get to have a rifle zeroed for normal hunting distance, without dialing elevation, on a "cheap" setup that might not track like a 3k$ S&B


if zeroed at 200 i get my 303yd mark on the lower post at 9x, 350 @ 6x and 400 @ 4.25x
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I've actually already ordered my new scope. Going with a Vortex Diamondback HP 4-16x42 with BDC reticle. So far I've found that I honestly prefer to not use the BDC if possible. So the way I've been shooting the past couple weeks has been just figuring out my DOPE and going from there. Only time I've been using the BDC is when my scope is maxed out on the 300-400 yd range.

In general this whole "long range shooting" has been totally new to me. I only started this a couple weeks ago and I feel like I've already learned so much more about my abilities and my rifle than in the past 2 years I've owned it. Since I'm a noob any advice/expertise is welcomed! :)
 
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You could get Burris rings with the offset inserts. They come in 5,10 and 20 moa . So you can adjust to what you want.
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Interesting. I just looked them up. Seems pretty useful. I think I'll stick with my current plan right now though haha.
 
Man that's commitment nice rig..
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Thank you sir. It was my summer project a few years ago. Up until a few weeks ago it was only a gopher killer for within 100 yds. But now I'm just starting to see the potential of what I built.
 
I went out to the range a couple days ago and had some great success. I'm shooting a NS522, Aguila High Velocity with a Nikon Prostaff 3-9 with the BDC reticle. With the elevation maxed out I can use the bottom post as a POA. With this setup we were hitting a IPSC Silhouette at 437 Yards 75% of the time. Long range 22LR is fun stuff.
 
CameronMac said:
I went out to the range a couple days ago and had some great success. I'm shooting a NS522, Aguila High Velocity with a Nikon Prostaff 3-9 with the BDC reticle. With the elevation maxed out I can use the bottom post as a POA. With this setup we were hitting a IPSC Silhouette at 437 Yards 75% of the time. Long range 22LR is fun stuff.
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Nice! I'm yet to get consistent hits at 400. Even with my scoped maxed out i need to use pretty much the very bottom of the post as POA. The target almost isn't in the sight picture.
 
Don't shim the rings. If anything you want to shim the base. Shimming the rings will put them out of alignment and torque your scope, and will definitely put undue stresses on everything.

If you want to shoot really far with a .22, you'll want something along the lines of this adjustable rail: https://arcanglesolution.wordpress.com/2012/11/09/hom/. There are other, simpler designs available as well.
 
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