Long range 22LR

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So, I managed to lay hands on one of those 20MOA Weaver/Picatinny style rails for my CZ452 Silhouette. Previously, the Nikon Monarch 4-16 was out of elevation well inside the 200 yard mark, and even to make the 200 yard board, I was up 3 mil-dots. It was so annoying, that I rarely played at long range. However, the 20MOA scope rail solved that problem!!! My range stops at 260 yards, and I still had about half a revolution of the turret left to go, so I'm gonna guess I could make 275-ish yards with this rig before I had to resort to hold-over with the mils.

Anyway, now that I can make some real distance -- I started fooling around with ammo again. Turns out that not everything that shoots really good at 50 meters (Fed AutoMatch, Win DynaPoints) shoots worth a crap out at 200 yards and beyond. The Fed AutoMatch which prints a super-consistent 0.5 or less group at 50 meters wasn't even miniute-o-sheet-of-paper at 200 meters, and the DynaPoints (also great at 50 meters) weren't much better. However, Winchester Power Points (which also shoot nice at 50 meters, just not as nice as the AutoMatch) kicked butt. 10 rounds into 3 inches at 200 meters on paper, and then (after cranking the elevation turret up another revolution), I commenced to shooting shadows in the dirt bank behind the 250 yard board (about 260-ish yards) -- little puffs of dust more/less right where I put the cross-hairs every time.

Oh, boy, this could get addictive!!!! :)
 
I just put a cheapy tasco target/varmint 2.5-10 x 42 on my 10/22, with target turrets and mil-dot reticle. Had it out yesterday, sighted her in zeroed at 50 yds, and found I still had almost 60 moa elevation adjustment left, so it too has lots of potention for long range fun. All in all, I'm very impressed for the small investment. Will be better than guessing hold-over for 250 yd shots on a 12" gong that I was doing last year, and that was fun. Pull trigger, bang.......wait......TING!:)
 
landphil said:
guessing hold-over for 250 yd shots on a 12" gong that I was doing last year, and that was fun. Pull trigger, bang.......wait......TING!:)
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Yeah, I've done that too.... ear muffs on... "bang".. slip ear muffs off so I can hear the bullet when it gets there... "ting"..... Having to hold the cross hairs 10+ feet over the gong was annoying though.
 
brotherjack said:
It looks like a CZ Silhouette with a picitanny rail and a Nikon 4-16SF stuck on it. :)
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BJ

There is a thread on Rimfire central about shooting past 200 yards with 22LR. One of the fellows insists that the better choices in ammo when shooting over 100 yards in the Hyper Velocity products, Stingers, MiniMags.
You may find it of interest, I think it is in the Open Rimfire section. FS
 
Long Range .22

Try shooting gophers at long range. 40 grain Power Point hollow points in a Remington 581 work great. Southern Alberta in early spring with snow on the ground. Little brown gophers on white snow as far as the eye can see. A spotter is helpful. After some practice, you can spot a gopher, judge the hold over, hold into the wind and walk a round into him at ridiculous ranges that most think is impossible for a .22.
 
Clobbersauras said:
sounds like a lot of fun. Post a pic of your rifle!
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OK, now that I got a little time to monkey with the camera. It's bare bones stock, except for the trigger job and (now) that 20MOA scope rail. I wish I could get a decent quality scope with a lot of zoom that was smaller/tighter/more compact, but as A/O scopes go, I suppose that the Nikon is fairly trim and compact. For playing at longer range, though, I'm starting to ponder seriously the idea of trading up to a Bushnell 4200 6-24 side-focus -- but then, I do hunt with this gun too, and the 6.5-20 I used to have, I found 6.5 too much zoom for fast/close action on rabbits and grouse, so I may just stick with the 4-16... either way, this is one of my very favourite guns to play around with. :)

The rifle as it sits currently.
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A couple of close-up's of the 20MOA rail (RimfireTech)
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Also interesting to note that I'm not the only one who's finding PowerPoints work great for long range. Most under-rated cheap(ish) 22LR ammo out there, eh? :)
 
The only HV Rimfire ammo that I ever got any long range consistency out of was the old, non-plated PMC "Zapper" LR. I actually won a 100 meter benchrest match with this ammo, and it is quite consistent way out as well. In running it across the graph, I was astounded to see a maximum variation of 6 fps in 10 rounds!! Don't know how they were doing that, but that is as good as the best match ammo I have chrony'd. I have a bit left, but save it for special occasions. Otherwise, the Match EPS Eley is the best in my Suhl or my 40X rimfires. One lot of Lapua Midas "M" also punches sub 1" groups [5-shot] at 200 meters. Regards, Eagleye
 
Also interesting to note that I'm not the only one who's finding PowerPoints work great for long range. Most under-rated cheap(ish) 22LR ammo out there, eh?
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Not really, all the "REAL" rimfire enthusiasts are busy buying up bricks of that crap dimpled rimfire ammo from Walmart. Can't for the life of me remember the name of it though.

the Match EPS Eley is the best in my Suhl or my 40X rimfires. One lot of Lapua Midas "M" also punches sub 1" groups [5-shot] at 200 meters.
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True but the problem with this kind of ammo is it isn't a hollow point and it is VERY expensive. So it isn't the best solution for high volume varmint shooting.
 
Hhhhmmm yes, the sticker price on my last box of black box EPS Eley, is $ 14.00 per 50 rounds.
I'm sure I also paid more for a box of new Federal Gold Match, and I had marginal results at 100 yards.
(Lapua Standard Club was equally accurate and cheaper in bulk)
But the Win Power Points are far cheaper & almost as good as other 'match' brands, "way out there."
This was my own experience, with my scoped Mauser and Toz-8.
 
Suputin said:
Not really, all the "REAL" rimfire enthusiasts are busy buying up bricks of that crap dimpled rimfire ammo from Walmart. Can't for the life of me remember the name of it though.
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Not the Winchester 333 :yingyang: , right? :redface:

That stuff is amusingly fun. :)

And there is no comparison between AE solids and CCI Blazers....:D
 
I have found the Winchester 333 ammo to produce only adequate results in my 10/22 while the Win DynaPoints produce an easy 2 MOA at 100 yards with a measly 4x scope. I'm sure I could squeeze at least another .5 MOA out of it if I had some better magnification. I should mention that this is being shot through a stock 16" Carbine barrel.

I do buy the Winchester 333 ammo though for the AA .22 kit I have for my Glock as it allows the pistol to operate at better than 99%. I only wish that it had stayed at $8 per box instead of jumping up to almost $13. :(
 
mmatt said:
I have found the Winchester 333 ammo to produce only adequate results in my 10/22 while the Win DynaPoints produce an easy 2 MOA at 100 yards with a measly 4x scope. I'm sure I could squeeze at least another .5 MOA out of it if I had some better magnification. I should mention that this is being shot through a stock 16" Carbine barrel.

I do buy the Winchester 333 ammo though for the AA .22 kit I have for my Glock as it allows the pistol to operate at better than 99%. I only wish that it had stayed at $8 per box instead of jumping up to almost $13. :(
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That's already "iffier" ;) , accuracy-wise :evil: , depending on the model (esp. some levers :D).....:yingyang:
 
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