Long Range Caliber Options

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Hey folks i'm newer to the long range world and i'm looking for some help. I'm going to be purchasing another long range rig shortly but I can't decide on a caliber. I have a 300 RUM right now that I do enjoy, besides the fact its powder thirsty and the recoil is a bit much (I don't want a brake either) but it launches 190 ABLR's nice out to 850 (haven't tried farther just yet) I also have a savage 10 223 with a 9 twist and I can shoot the 75gr ELD-M out of nicely. Shot a 3.65" group at 650 with it few weeks ago and I really liked being able to trace the shot myself, and being able to shoot all day and not break the wallet or my shoulder But I don't think it would quite make the 1000 yard mark as its slow, and any faster my groups open right up.

Now I want to another one to my arsenal, but I want something with low recoil, high BC and big enough that I can shoot a deer with (243 up in SK). Really looking at a 6.5 creedmoor, or even a 6.5-284. Any other suggestions? Not a 308 guy either. I am open to wildcat cals but would prefer that I can keep it open to purchase factory rounds even though I do handload. I'm sure this has been posted numerous times and I do apologize for posting again.

Hunter
 
hunter-4-life said:
Hey folks i'm newer to the long range world and i'm looking for some help. I'm going to be purchasing another long range rig shortly but I can't decide on a caliber. I have a 300 RUM right now that I do enjoy, besides the fact its powder thirsty and the recoil is a bit much (I don't want a brake either) but it launches 190 ABLR's nice out to 850 (haven't tried farther just yet) I also have a savage 10 223 with a 9 twist and I can shoot the 75gr ELD-M out of nicely. Shot a 3.65" group at 650 with it few weeks ago and I really liked being able to trace the shot myself, and being able to shoot all day and not break the wallet or my shoulder But I don't think it would quite make the 1000 yard mark as its slow, and any faster my groups open right up.

Now I want to another one to my arsenal, but I want something with low recoil, high BC and big enough that I can shoot a deer with (243 up in SK). Really looking at a 6.5 creedmoor, or even a 6.5-284. Any other suggestions? Not a 308 guy either. I am open to wildcat cals but would prefer that I can keep it open to purchase factory rounds even though I do handload. I'm sure this has been posted numerous times and I do apologize for posting again.

Hunter
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6.5 Creedmoor ticks all of your boxes, really. Plenty of good factory ammo in different weights, hunting and target bullets, brass from multiple manufacturers. That'd be my suggestion.
 
Most long range shooters start with a .308 because its the cheapest to shoot and easiest to learn on and your barrel lasts the longest.

The Creedmor gets all the press these days...although the .260 has been around for 20 years and is basically the same thing....minus a fancy name and slick marketing campaign.
 
I never even thought of the 260, that might be a good option. I know the 6.5 creed has become popular due to marketing there’s no deneying that. But it seems as though it is walking the walk and talking the talk.
 
I have a 6x45. Deer legal and will make it to 1000 yards . I have shot it at nokomis.

I also built a 7mm-08 with a 26" barrel. 139's at over 3k and 162's at 2850.
 
hunter-4-life said:
I never even thought of the 260, that might be a good option. I know the 6.5 creed has become popular due to marketing there’s no deneying that. But it seems as though it is walking the walk and talking the talk.
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6.5CM was intended to be an option for target shooters that don't load, the idea was to provide lots of factory loaded target ammo capable of shooting well to 1000 yards. 308 was already doing this but falters a bit at that range, and factory ammo selection was still a bit limited.
A fast 6.5 or 7mm will have great ballistics with heavy target pills. 7mm mag with a good brake recoils similar to a 243.
 
I have a 7mm rem mag sako 75 stainless, a 300WSM Fierce, 22-250 Tikka stainless. I just bought a Tikka CTR stainless in 6.5 creedmoor with a 24" brl. I really like this gun, but would be a little heavy to carry on long hauls hunting. All I do hunting is walk, pretty much sun up to sundown. I like it enough that I may buy another one lighter, possibly Browning hells canyon speed?? The caliber is impressive and shoots excellent.
 
Hitzy said:
6.5CM was intended to be an option for target shooters that don't load, the idea was to provide lots of factory loaded target ammo capable of shooting well to 1000 yards. 308 was already doing this but falters a bit at that range, and factory ammo selection was still a bit limited.
A fast 6.5 or 7mm will have great ballistics with heavy target pills. 7mm mag with a good brake recoils similar to a 243.
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I dont mind recoil, but when a guy goes to shoot all day it gets old. And shooting with a brake I’m not really a fan of. I was going to put one on my ultra until I shot a buddies 300 win mag with one, yeah the recoil was nice but it was loud even with ear plugs in lol
 
I've replaced my 223 heavy barrel with a 6 Dasher (wildcat, 6BR with shoulder pushed forward 0.100") . the 223 shot a 75gn A-Max and <25gn of H4895. The Dasher shoots a 105gn Hornaday (105 Berger for ranges greater than 600yds) and ~31gns of Varget.

So between the two, the Dasher is not a lot more than the 223, legal for deer, and very capable at 1000 yards.

Forming the cases is not a big deal , my fire forming load goes sub 1moa so its not a waste, the cases last for near ever as well.

I have two of them now, when my Savage LRP goes south it will have a 6 Dasher barrel installed.......ya its that good!
 
2 fellows at our range out West use 7mm short case mags that have been reamed out long to handle the 190/190 berger bullets.

They built them off the long actions since the bullets sit out further,,, this allows for another 5 to 7 grains of powder.
3000 to 3100 ft-per seconds +/-

They look like a fun wild cat build.
This long throat idea helps for accuracy since the back of the bullet is forward of the neck V so it has pressures that directly behind the bullet instead of along the sides when these long bullets are seated deep in the SAMII specs.

I'm sure others will chime in on this idea since its new to me.

Both of them were shooting clay pigeons at 600 meters like nothing

Don
 
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