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Figured I would post this in this forum rather than the reloading forum.

My question is how critical is it to use Norma/Lapua/Nosler brass rather than run of the mill Rem/Fed/Win when your shooting F-Class.Assuming the brass is prepped with the same care as if it was match brass. I understand how important it is when it comes to bench rest shooting,but how picky are you F-Class shooters when your shooting for a V-Bull that is 5-6"

Thanks
Peter
 
You are going to here a wide variety of views on this subject matter I prefer to use Lake City Match Brass. I do weigh the empty brass cases and all are match prepped IE: deburr primer flash hole,Trimmed to min OAL . Most any brass if all things being the same IE Manfacturer,Case Weight and OAL will give consistent results .But again this is what I have been doing and it works for me
 
This is a good post that should raise alot of debate. Myself I would have to agree with Savage, If your willing to do the prep work and take the time, I believe all brass can be made match. That being said I love the Nosler brass because alot of that work has been done and it is so much easier to do on the reload. It's the accuracy thing that is going to raise alot of debate....I can only say that I have been happy with my reloads using bulk winchester brass or Nosler competition brass, but I don't compete on a regular basis either.

Just an opinion
 
The case is but one of the components that contributes to good accuracy, as most shooters are concerned with the ultimate accuracy their rifles can provide it should be treated with as much care as the rest of the components. It doesn't make sense to me to spend my hard earned money on quality action, barrel, trigger, bullets etc. etc. and then scimp on the brass.
my .02
bigbull
 
When you pay top dollars for good brass(ex;Lapua) the time needed for prep goes down drasticly.So you can spend time on other part of the equation

Go for cheaper brass=more time in sorting them out
 
Prepped commercial and even some surplus brass (lake city is awesome) can get you down to the 1/4MOA range. From there, so much is important from the rifle, load, scope, stock, shooter that it is really hard to say brass will solve all your woes.

I have sorted brass through volume and firing and have had great results. Others who compete at high US national levels also use commercial brass instead of the Euro stuff.

Conversely, I have also used some Euro brass, very short case life and no benefit in group reduction.

So much depends on the rifle...

Jerry
 
Everyone will have his own favorite brand of brass, but what really matters is that it is square, and consistent in wall thickness and weight, and that these variables must remain constant throughout the life of the brass. I don't think it matters so much which brand brass you chose, however you should stick with one because otherwise you'll have to tweak you loads constantly as you change brass. Everyone's favorite seems to be Lapua, and if you have deep pockets RWS might even be better. For most of us Winchester and Federal will work just fine you if purchase your brass from the same lot number.
 
Fed Gold Medal Match, Lapua, and Hornady, have performed the same in
my rifle. I bought Lapua last just for the fun of it. One less thing to worry
about.

--PM
 
I can recall switching from Winchester brass to Lapua brass for last year's competitions and I did notice there was a slightly improved difference in my accuracy. (The Lapua brass is a lot thicker and seemed more consistent than the hunting brass). Then again, I could just have improved my shooting technique, or my loads, or the wind was in my favour last year. Who knows, but if it gives you that extra piece of mind from buying consistant quality components then I say it's well worth it. Good Luck Pete1.
 
Ive tried Rem, Win, and Lapua. I wont waste my money or time on Rem/Win again. After a season of shooting with Lapua brass I wont reload anything else again. In fact I just purchased 500 Lapua for my new Swede.
The time savings in brass prep is dramatic loading Lapua. plus the primer pockets dont come loose as quickly and the variance in case weights is much smaller than Rem/Win.
You can reload Lapua brass up to 15X before discarding. What else can I say.
 
Thanks for all the replies.
I ordered 300 Win Mag Lapua brass a couple of weeks ago.It is slated to arrive this week.I guess what you guys say makes sence.Why skimp on the brass after forking out all the funds for the rifle.I suppose I'll use up all my Winchester brass on practice loads.

Regards
Peter
 
I have bought winchester brass and found what I had to be amazingly close in weight, in fact I think I had two lots out of 100. Having said that I have Lapua brass that I just can not kill, I have no idea how many time it has been loaded and it just keeps on going with fairly stiff loads in 308. I think any brass will work if it prepped properly but I do believe the good stuff, Lapua, will last long enough to give to my grandkids when I have any.
 
Merrill Martin a PS (Precision Shooting) writer has written lots on the subject of rifle brass and the effects of poor quality brass. Some good reading there... Lack of uniform wall thickness etc....
 
mysticplayer said:
Ian, if you can't kill Lapua brass, you aren't going toasty enough ;-)

The most durable 308 brass I have used is Fed GM.
Jerry
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Everyone that have been reloading for a long time will tell you that fed brass is too soft...
 
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