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this is probably going to open a big bag o worms but here goes... ;)
I have a 280 rem that i'm not afraid of shooting 400yrds (hunting). but i think that anything after that would really pushing it. I would like to own a rifle that would be accurate and still powerful enough to drop big game at 500-700yrds. what would you guys recomend?
thanks
here is my 280
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.338 lapua mag. You'll have to spend a little money though the brass isn't cheap and as for rifles you get what you pay for. Oh and don't forget to set aside another grand or so for good optics.

If you can hit animals at 400yds do you really need to shoot further ? The potential for badly placed shots and wounded animals is greatly increased at these ranges. If you are 12" left on a target that is no big deal but 12" left on a deer is a big deal. One puff of wind and you'll be way off target.

You are right this should be an interesting thread.:D
 
7mm rem magnum, 300 win mag, 300 Rem Ultra Mag. and even 30-06 All can hit long and hard.

There are just so many choices that will all work well.
 
Long range shots

I have a custom 7MM Rem Mag in a heavy barrel and I shot 900 yards with it testing ammo grs,velocity and the scope setting. I have no problem shooting 600yards on caribou but only if the weather is calm.

Catworks
 
Where is the skill in hunting like that? I've seen photos of american hunters usiing 50 bmg's on elk at 1500 yards there is something morally wrong with that. It could be my old fashioned values but I think the guys that are using lever actions with open sights are hunters, guys using laser rangefinders and thousand yard guns are harvesters. I love the LR stuff but keep it in its place, part of what makes hunting a sport is the idea that the animal has a fair chance. Just my two cents worth but I think a guy that can bring home a whitetail with a muzzleloader or a bow has a lot more to be proud of than a guy who shoots an elk from the other side of the valley. Now if you want to use a fancy rig like that to break up rocks or blow up milk jugs on the other side of the valley, that's something I'd like to come along for.....
 
dan, remember this is about hitting at longer distances. The TSX is not designed to open up at reduced velocities despite what the ads say. There are enough LR hunters that have shown that 'fragile' bullets are the way to go when IMPACT velocity drops off.

The amax works wonderfully down to 1500fps. Actually, will work slower but that is a very long ways away.

The Amax is likely to be more accurate and have a better BC too which all aid in putting the bullet where it matters.

Jerry
 
i find that some times a long shot (500-700) is the only option. and for not being a hunter... i spend a ton of time up a tree with my bow!
thanks for the input on the bullets. i'm using 163(ithink) hornadys loaded to what the book says are max loads.
thanks again
 
yes the tsx doesnt work at low fps but 500-700 yrds shouldnt be that slow
and if thats the case the interbonds still will work better than the Amax
Im not saying the amax isnt a good bullet it is but it isnt a hunting bullet
I saw a wound from a .50 bmg Amax on a tiny bopper deer and it wasnt impressive (i think the size of the bullet not the bullet killed him)
I've seen photos of american hunters usiing 50 bmg's on elk at 1500 yards there is something morally wrong with that.
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whats wrong with a 1 shot kill at 1500 yrds
it takes as much talent at that distance as a 60-70 yrd shot with a bow
a kill shot is a kill shot no questions asked its just diffrent hunting
 
milo said:
Where is the skill in hunting like that? I've seen photos of american hunters usiing 50 bmg's on elk at 1500 yards there is something morally wrong with that. It could be my old fashioned values but I think the guys that are using lever actions with open sights are hunters, guys using laser rangefinders and thousand yard guns are harvesters. I love the LR stuff but keep it in its place, part of what makes hunting a sport is the idea that the animal has a fair chance. Just my two cents worth but I think a guy that can bring home a whitetail with a muzzleloader or a bow has a lot more to be proud of than a guy who shoots an elk from the other side of the valley. Now if you want to use a fancy rig like that to break up rocks or blow up milk jugs on the other side of the valley, that's something I'd like to come along for.....
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If it is morally wrong for you then do not do it. I find it funny to say the same thing to a hunter/gunnut As I would say to an anti..........
 
the only person that hasnt wounded an animal either hasnt hunted enough or doesnt hunt
sh!t happens whether at 200 yrds or 2000 yrds
sucks but it happens
the question is can you find it and finish the job
 
I guess you can call me a harvester

During the winter when there is few caribou we traval long distance to get tuktu (caribou) and we share it with family members and elders that can't go out hunting anymore. In my case we live in a area that has no trees and you can see for miles we have very little cover so shooting long range is the best way for me. We have no limit for caribou for inuit hunter as everthing is used. One winter my uncle and I went on a trip for a lot of people and that year there was no tuktu around Rankin Inlet, we had to traval 90 miles and I got 30 tuktu that one day.

milo said:
Where is the skill in hunting like that? I've seen photos of american hunters usiing 50 bmg's on elk at 1500 yards there is something morally wrong with that. It could be my old fashioned values but I think the guys that are using lever actions with open sights are hunters, guys using laser rangefinders and thousand yard guns are harvesters. I love the LR stuff but keep it in its place, part of what makes hunting a sport is the idea that the animal has a fair chance. Just my two cents worth but I think a guy that can bring home a whitetail with a muzzleloader or a bow has a lot more to be proud of than a guy who shoots an elk from the other side of the valley. Now if you want to use a fancy rig like that to break up rocks or blow up milk jugs on the other side of the valley, that's something I'd like to come along for.....
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daniellybbert said:
the only person that hasnt wounded an animal either hasnt hunted enough or doesnt hunt
sh!t happens whether at 200 yrds or 2000 yrds
sucks but it happens
the question is can you find it and finish the job
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The question is are you skilled and experienced enough to determine whether the wind is blowing the same direction here as it is at 1500, or as you now say, 2000 yds away?

It can be done. Do you know how?

Can you determine how many times and how much it changes direction in between?

Now that you have the wind direction figured out, are you able to determine the velocity of that wind.............all the way from here to there?

Do you know that just a ten mile per hour wind, which is just a slight breeze on the side of your face, has the same effect on a bullet as gravity?

How far does gravity pull a bullet down at 1500 yds? The same distance a ten mph breeze pushes it sideways, unless of course, the angle of the wind isn't ninety degrees to the path of the bullet, or is it?

A high BC 30 cal bullet takes one and a quarter seconds to reach 1000yd. Do you have any idea how long it takes a bullet to travel 1500 yds, even one with an exceptionally high ballistic co-efficient, launched at very high speed, say 3400 fps?

If you can determine all of that, then are you absolutely certain the animal will stand still for that long....... or will it take a step?

Just a few questions to start with. There are at least a dozen more.

With all due respect, the odds of wounding an animal at your 1500-2000 yds are many orders of magnitude higher than the originator of this thread with his 280 Rem at 200 or even 500 yards.

Respectfully,
Ted
 
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milo said:
Where is the skill in hunting like that? I've seen photos of american hunters usiing 50 bmg's on elk at 1500 yards there is something morally wrong with that. It could be my old fashioned values but I think the guys that are using lever actions with open sights are hunters, guys using laser rangefinders and thousand yard guns are harvesters. I love the LR stuff but keep it in its place, part of what makes hunting a sport is the idea that the animal has a fair chance. Just my two cents worth but I think a guy that can bring home a whitetail with a muzzleloader or a bow has a lot more to be proud of than a guy who shoots an elk from the other side of the valley. Now if you want to use a fancy rig like that to break up rocks or blow up milk jugs on the other side of the valley, that's something I'd like to come along for.....
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Some bow hunters say that ANYONE hunting with a rifle is not hunting.
Some lever hiunters say that ANYONE hunting with a scope is not hunting.
I remember some arespick hunting with an inline saying "I would be a sin to "snipe " that animal with a modern rifle"!
Still others say that anyone hunting from tree stand with a compund is not hunting.
I've also heard that " anyone can shoot tiny little groups with a benchrest"

I'm tired of all this self rightous CRAP!!:mad:
Stay away from this type of conversation , if all you want to do is preach.you type of hunting , shooting , whatever.

BTTW, I hunt with single shots, Muzzle loaders, stick bows, and long range rifles, and if it is of any interest to you, have seen more animals wounded by people at short range than I have by true long range hunters who pratcice diligently.

If you want to start a flame war ( which I guess you have) take it somewhwere else, Partner.
This is the last I will speak about this, BBTW, so the moderators can do what they want with it.
Cat
 
During the winter when there is few caribou we traval long distance to get tuktu (caribou) and we share it with family members and elders that can't go out hunting anymore. In my case we live in a area that has no trees and you can see for miles we have very little cover so shooting long range is the best way for me. We have no limit for caribou for inuit hunter as everthing is used. One winter my uncle and I went on a trip for a lot of people and that year there was no tuktu around Rankin Inlet, we had to traval 90 miles and I got 30 tuktu that one day.
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incredible, well done... reminds of my reads by Farley Mowat... actually met him a year back... wiry little guy and still sharp as a tack.
 
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