Long Range ??

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Just a question on how long are people shooting the M305 out to ?? Also what would be decent scope qualities for say out to 300 and further ?
 
Use mine in service rifle matches out to 500 yards. Scoped and iron sights.
Edit. Since someone is interested in apples, I can hit the Figure 12 (18" wide 24" tall or garbage can lid) at the 500 yard. The OP asked how long are people shooting the M305 out to, not how tight they can group and at what range.
 
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You will get plenty of guys who say they can shoot apples at 500 yards all day long.
In reality it's a real safe bet the same guys could probably hit a garbage can lid with 3 out of 5 shots from 300 yards with an M305 on a real good day.

I've heard it and seen it too many times to believe otherwise.
 
We have a Vintage Rifle match at Winona on Aug 25. There will be Norc M14s there, shooting at 100, 200 and 300. A friend of mine has one that he shoots in 'out of the box" condition (has not been to a Clinic) except he added a cheap 6X scope. It shoots about 2 MOA from a rested position. I am impressed every time I mark his target.

I have 3 of the rifles (2 long and 1 shorty). All shoot quite well. They have been through one of Hungry's Clinics. I don't know how much that improved the results.

At 300 I could easily group inside a dinner plate and would never miss a garbage can lid.
 
My National Match shoots well out to 600M. Not apples but much better than "garbage can lids". 700m is decent, 800m is pretty bad but still on paper and 900m I'm lucky to hit a 4x8 sheet of plywood. That's with 168g matchkings. I have a good load with 175g Berger VLD's that should be supersonic at 900m but have only tested it to 500m. Shot a few apples that day at 500 but I'm not expecting that kind of consistency on any given day. Anyway it shoots well enough at "long range" to shut the naysayers up with either optics or irons.
 
My shooting buddy has a dressed up M305, shooting home rolled ammo.
Our 16" gong at 630yd is ~60-70% success rate. Our same sized gong at 900yd, not so much. Closer to 5% success.
Ymmv.
 
"...shoots about 2 MOA..." Geeuz, that is impressive. What ammo?
"...The OP asked..." There is that. I suspect most are shooting as far as they can at the ranges they can shoot at. The .308/7.62 is/was used out to 800 plus in standard DCRA shooting. Short range was 300.
 
I haven't got time this year what with starting a new job and such.....but next summer I'd like to shoot some RNBRA matches with my M14S. I don't think I'll shoot clean at distance like some of the bolt gun shooters do....but I think I can make them nervous out to the 600m mark.
 
I haven't got time this year what with starting a new job and such.....but next summer I'd like to shoot some RNBRA matches with my M14S. I don't think I'll shoot clean at distance like some of the bolt gun shooters do....but I think I can make them nervous out to the 600m mark.

Sorry to burst the bubble on you but...

I would be very interested in hearing how you make out. We all could use a good laugh.

These days a good bolt gun will put 15 rounds in a row into a 1/2 MOA group in a squadded match out to 1000 yards on a calm day. If the wind gets up to 10 MPH you can expect to see 12 out of 15 shots inside the 10" five ring at 1000 yards. No M14 on the planet will be remotely competitive against even a decent bolt gun.

Ya I see you didn't say 1000 yards - only 600, the bolt guns will be holding the same 1/2 MOA when calm all the way from 300 to 1000 - the shorter distance will not save you.

Hey, good luck though. It's all fun. Just don't tell anyone you expect to make them nervous, but rub their noses in it real good if you do.
 
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