Longer AR flash hiders, 2"

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I need to weld a flash hider to my Krinker Plinker kit to make the folder legal, what's out there for extended flash hiders that don't look goofy as heck like the 5"? I don't suppose a vortex (my favorite) will get me over the limit length wise... (Don't have the kit on hand to measure yet)

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I don't believe this has anything to do with barrel length; OAL is what's killing the folders on the Krinker Plinkers. If welding the stock open to lengthen the firearm is okay, then welding a longer flash hider to the barrel to increase the length should be too.
 
Only the barrel length is measured not anything attached to it,so a F/H unless it was integral to the barrel does not count towards OAL or barrel length.
 
Over all length is overall length. Welding the stock open makes the over all length long enough. if it is 2 inches short then adding two inches will make it legal overall length. Adding that to the barrel end or the butt end doesn't matter, as long as it's permanent.

Barrel length is not a factor as this is a rimfire (as long as it's over 106mm).
 
Reaper said:
Welding an extended flash hider will not make it "folder legal",only the barrel length is counted,not anything attached to it.
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x2! Ditto. Tried that route with a para Model M1 carbine. Told no go to make it legal.

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Flash hider

Talking apples vs. oranges here. You cannot convert a restricted firearm (eg. an 18" barreled M1 carbine) to non-restricted status by welding on a flash hider to make it 18 1/2' or longer. That has strictly to do with rifle barrel length.

The Krinker Plinker is a different situation. Rimfires are not restricted because of their barrel length but rather by overall length. Over 26" = non-restricted, under 26" = restricted. No matter how you alter the length (longer stock, welded on flash hider, etc.) as long as its minimum length (eg. when the stock is folded) is a permanent 26" or more it is non-restricted. Welding on a flash hider to get it to 26" or more is a perfectly acceptable method of doing that.
 
will hit the nail on the head. As this is a rimfire, barrel length has no bearing what so ever. Similar idea as the 12" shotgun barrels being perfectly legal if the stock is long enough.

As for the question at hand, I measured my Rooster33 votrex FS and it is just over 2 inches. Subtract the threaded bit of the barrel and it would be just under two inches additional length.
 
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The Krinker Plinker is a different situation. Rimfires are not restricted because of their barrel length but rather by overall length. Over 26" = non-restricted, under 26" = restricted. No matter how you alter the length (longer stock, welded on flash hider, etc.) as long as its minimum length (eg. when the stock is folded) is a permanent 26" or more it is non-restricted. Welding on a flash hider to get it to 26" or more is a perfectly acceptable method of doing that.


Reaper is bang on the Barrel mod the way it was explained to me is that adding anything on to the barrel is not a mod that in the law is acceptable ,Regardless if you are trying to change status from restricted or simply trying to lengthen the barrel to utilize another stock it is a illegal modifaction ,if in doubt contact the RCMP Firearms Lab they will let you know.
 
Had an issue way back with CFC about the same thing. The flash hider was welded on in the US to comply with their laws but the gun was listed as a 14" barrel. The OAL was over 18.5" with the welded part but no go... Its restricted. :mad:
 
skooch said:
Had an issue way back with CFC about the same thing. The flash hider was welded on in the US to comply with their laws but the gun was listed as a 14" barrel. The OAL was over 18.5" with the welded part but no go... Its restricted. :mad:
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That's a different situation, that's barrel length, not OAL. I had PM's from knowledgeable CGN'ers saying the flash hider weld on for OAL length is kosher, so I checked with the CFC and YES it is considered 100% OK to add OAL in this way, so long as the weld is "permanent". They don't care how you get over the OAL, only that you do and that it is not easily reversible.
 
Armedsask said:
Permanantly fix a bayonet, that would be neat. :D
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Laf, that's pretty funny :) I don't think the CFC would much appreciate what their legislation amounted to; making one "dangerous apparatus" legal by adding another to it... ;) :p

*Laf, edit, on that note you could make it legal by permanently adding a grenade launcher....
 
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