Lookin for some schooling on .45 Pistols

:cheers:When you "double tap" a .45, you know it!!

I found that buying an old "beater" Colt (or...several of 'em) was a good way to get into it. You quickly get to know your gun(s), and customizing to your personal taste is easy, and not that expensive. I have several and, after a little tuning, they're all great shooters.

Case in point - this one was a seriously-beat-up gun out of cases of 'em that came through a gun store in Vancouver. It was nickel plated (one of several I bought at the time) but, after playing with it, adding aftermarket bits, making some myself (I picked out the best slide I had, polished it & had it blued, tightened the frame rails, installed a Micro rear sight, made & installed my own front sight, etc.), here's how it turned out -
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[/IMG] This thing shoots like a laser, eats anything I throw at it, and is reliable as a stone hammer.

I also have an original Colt Conversion Unit, so .22 practice is not a problem...big $ savings there...
 
Joe, I don't know if you've considered the price per round of 45ACP as opposed to say, 9mm. I'd love to have a 1911, but frankly, can't afford to shoot one. Just something to consider: price out a box of each and see how expensive each round downrange is going to cost you. You could get into reloading, but even there- 9mm is cheaper than .45.
 
BCRider said:
He must have "double tapped". There's already an identical question with a lot more replies at;

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?817492-Lookin-for-some-schooling-on-45-Pistols

Joe, you should edit your post to remove it or ask a moderator to delete this thread in favour of the other.
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The Admin moved my thread here from the General Firearms area this morning. i didn't know there was one just for pistols. Thanks for the heads up, i just checked your link to the other thread and it was removed.
 
Yeah I've considered that.. Before i had my RPAL my brother bought a Desert Eagle .50, i quickly learned to keep ammunition prices in mind when buying a weapon, it's around $85 for a box if 25 .50AE!!!! INSANE!! so we keep all the spent cartridges and plan on getting into reloading down the road.
 
That's awesome. Sounds like a great way to learn your weapon inside and out. i would be all about that, but i haven't come across any boxes of old colts yet :)
 
If you have big hands look for a CZ97. The gun will outshoot pistols that cost twice the price. You may not like the sights...I don't but they can be replaced. If you have small hands forget the 97 . Tanfoglio also have a few models in .45acp that likely would be good bets as well.

Take Care

Bob
 
i was going to pick up a 1911, but im quite happy with my sig p220 with .22lr exchange kit.
.45 isnt cheap ammo... just yesterday i bought a box of 50 .45 for $28 and a box of 100 9mm for $25
 
tactical_tech said:
Canada ammo has the norinco .45 for $7 a box of 50.
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im going to be fully stocked as of tomorrow, but got a link for that?? all i can see is 1000 rounds for $329+shipping

i got a deal on factory ammo from a friend who ditched all his .45 pistols.
 
ez8 said:
im going to be fully stocked as of tomorrow, but got a link for that?? all i can see is 1000 rounds for $329+shipping

i got a deal on factory ammo from a friend who ditched all his .45 pistols.
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Ha! Sorry just re-read my post. It's supposed to be $17 a box of 50 not $7. They sell the norinco in the case of 1000, ammo can of 500, or box of 50. https://www.canadaammo.com/product/detail/684
Just have to change the quantity you want.
 
My first .45 was an Armco tuned Norinco 1911 Government(full-size) model. It was a great inexpensive shooter but the finish was a little rough.
Sold the Norc and picked up a Sig BlackWater 1911. This HG was almost too pretty to shoot. I like the 1911 platform but hated taking them apart for cleaning. When the gen4 Glock21's came out I grabbed one and haven't looked back. This is my 2nd Glock and while they may not fit "perfectly" they are so easy to maintain. They're accurate enough and I like the trigger reset feature. Also, parts and accessories are readily available and most of the work can be done without a Smith.
Best thing is I'm not too concerned if my Glocks get a little roughed up...they seem to look better that way.
 
So i've looked around and found a second hand Glock 21 in my city for $600 I think she's gonna be the one, i'm heading to the range tomorrow for a few hours to fondle as many 45's as i can, hopefully they have a glock 21 there, but from what i can tell the glock .45 seems to be a decent price on a gun that I've heard a lot of good things about.

Does that price sound right to you guy's?
 
Joekingnf said:
So i've looked around and found a second hand Glock 21 in my city for $600 I think she's gonna be the one, i'm heading to the range tomorrow for a few hours to fondle as many 45's as i can, hopefully they have a glock 21 there, but from what i can tell the glock .45 seems to be a decent price on a gun that I've heard a lot of good things about.

Does that price sound right to you guy's?
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Is the price $600 or $645 maybe?
Second generation Glock 21 by any chance?
666 in the serial number?
If so, this pistol was recalled by Glock for the slide upgrade.
It may create a bit of pain for You.
Just be aware of that...or maybe I'm referring to completely different gun.
Anyway, good luck.
 
I bought a Gen 3 Glock 21 this year, have to say I was impressed with it. Had never held one before it arrived in the mail, it fits me well. Simple pistol to operate, minimal recoil. I'd heard they were harsh but I find its very easy to keep on target for follow up shots. Can't say anything bad about it, and I'm a hater.
 
jeffcarr88 said:
Don't run **** ammo in a expensive gun...would you put the cheapest, ####test gas in your Ducati?
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Nothing wrong with the Norinco 45 ammo... nothing at all. It will go bang and save you money. By far the largest expense in shooting is ammo. I shot a ton of Norinco ammo and it is good. But with everything, it is an individual choice.
 
I have read all the above posts. I want to add a bit of history to the tread. The 1911A1 is a classic design by John Moses Browning that came out just before WW1 and was the official side arm of many military up to like 1955 or so, still is used by some USA goverment types and they absolutly refuse to drop it and rebuild the guns over and over. The .45 ACP is a great cartrage and is coming back into favor with police type agencys due to it's stopping power. The 1911 platform is built by many different companies and are more or less interchangeable. The problem is that the gun was designed for round nose bullets so other bullets do not always work, that is one of the issues anyway. Another is that all parts do not interchange. Now we have CAD designs and modern materials that make for cheaper guns and better designs, the 1911 was designed around 1908 or so and these options were not available than. To be true to the origional 1911 design means that you have to follow the old designs etc. The 1911 is a classic, historic design and many newer guns were copied from it. It is a beauty to hold and admire as well. It is all steel construction. The 1911 is fussy about what ammo you use and a cheap 1911 is not a good gun in most cases. The 1911 was designed as a 5 inch bbl. and as a .45 ACP cartrage, it works best that way but there are shorter bbl guns and other bullet sizes available now. Due to it's weight etc. the 1911 is easy to shoot and accurate. The 1911 is single stack meaning it holds like 7 .45 rounds. Newer designs hold like 15 + rounds, this was the demise of the 1911 for police types more or less. The .45 ACP cartrage makes around 18,000 PSI (going from memory) where modern bullets make like 30,000 PSI (going from memory) so the .45ACP is easier on the gun and has less kick. The bullet is heavy and that is the key in the .45, it has stopping power/energy. The .45 goes around 800 feet per second while lighter bullets go around 1200 and up.

I guess my feelings having had a 1911 for a while and what I have learned is that if you want a totally reliable 1911 you better spend at least $2000 for it or more. I have a STI Spartan and love the gun, really love it. I have had thoughts of buying a custom 1911 like a Wilson CQB but have got over that I think($4000). I just bought a $400 Ruger P90 used and it is a great .45 ACP gun. I guess the important thing is that we are only poking holes in paper not risking our lives with these guns. If the 1911 fails to fire or fails to return to battery it isn't the end of the world for us. I think every serious gun collector should have at least one 1911 in the collection.

I have two great books on the 1911, same author, book is called "The Gun Digest The Book of the 1911" Volumne I and II. If you want only one book the first is the best. He doesn't name any bad guns, he just doesn't list the bad ones. His thought is that a bad gun this year could be a good gun next year, kind of crazy I think but what ever.

If I could own only one gun/calibre it would be a .45 ACP and likely a expensive 1911 by Wilson.
 
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