Looking for a good gun for IPSC & IDPA

blueflash said:
I bought myself a regular CZ75b, because I found a nice satin nickel one, that I liked very much. If I ever find myself getting involved in IPSC then I will trade it in for a Shadow because they seem to be one of the most popular guns in the production class.
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Unless you are really very proficient with your handguns the 75B gives nothing away to the Shadow. True the Shadow has a slightly heavier front end but that is it.. Lighter guns are generally faster to draw from, not always an advatage in IPSC but important in IDPA (Stages are shorter) and lighter guns are easier to stop quickly when transitioning from one target to another.

I have two 85 Combats and the Shadow. I can run light loaded 147 gr lead bullets right arround 130PF in my 85's with no problem with very little recoil. The Shadow's slide is heavier and the gun chokes on the same load. For IPSC I now run 125 gr with slightly more snap in the Shadow and the gun runs just fine.

My advice is to use your 75B in IPSC Production. It won't be the gun that keeps you away from the top.

Take Care

Bob
 
Mike Oxlong said:
Sorry, but you should really get your facts straight before offering advice. :rolleyes:
The minimum calbre for 'Major' in Standard Division is .40. Therefore, .38 Super would be scored Minor. And mag wells are perfectly acceptable in Standard as long as the gun fits in the IPSC 'Box'.
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Yes sir! You are correct and I was wrong for standard class but it does make major for open class. Either way I wouldn't recommend shooting 9mm in standard class.
 
GunGuy34 said:
I was told due to the first trigger pull being DA and the remaining pulls tell the clip is empty being SA, that it messes ya up. A consistant trigger pull each time is suppose to be better. But in the end get something that feels good in your hands.
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The first pull is only DA if you de-#### the pistol after reloading it. Even then, you can re-#### it to get consistent pull.

MANY guns are DA/SA, for example most SIGs. It's not a problem, just a different feature for your to learn and practise with.
 
Claven2 said:
The first pull is only DA if you de-#### the pistol after reloading it. Even then, you can re-#### it to get consistent pull.

MANY guns are DA/SA, for example most SIGs. It's not a problem, just a different feature for your to learn and practise with.
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We are talking about IPSC though and in production class you have to start in DA otherwise you are shooting in standard.
 
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My pick was a SIG X-five 40 cal All Round which out of the box had me in production. I've done a few mods and now have to shoot standard but it's a great gun if a bit pricey. Looks good too. :)

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carsmovies said:
We are talking about IPSC though and in production class you have to start in DA otherwise you are shooting in standard.
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Again, you should check the facts before offering advice. If you're shooting in Production Division and #### the hammer after the start signal, it in incurs a procedural penalty; it does not move you to Standard. Furthermore, the 'default division' in IPSC is Open; not Standard.
 
Mike Oxlong said:
Again, you should check the facts before offering advice. If you're shooting in Production Division and #### the hammer after the start signal, it in incurs a procedural penalty; it does not move you to Standard. Furthermore, the 'default division' in IPSC is Open; not Standard.
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Ok you're starting to get on my nerves. I wasn't talking about cocking the hammer after the start signal. I was saying that if you want to start in SA then you will be shooting in standard class and not production.
 
Just for the record and perhaps to clarify, the gun out of the box was a DA/SA so that I would qualify for "production" It is still a DA/SA pistol but I'm disqualified from "production" because of modifications done by Bruce Gray. If you look closely, the dust cover has been re-profiled and a significant amount of metal removed. Weight was also removed by narrowing the beavertail. The inside of the dust cover was also relieved. All of that was part of Gray's Lightening process that includes other tuning and refining. It was a great gun new and now is measurably better. However the action was not changed. My first shot in matches is still DA.
 
Quick question, what class would the Glock 17 fall under than? All these classes are somewhat confusing me.
Thanks so much
Eric
 
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Wendell,

You are always super helpful and give sound advice and sources for accurate information. You are a credit to this forum!!

Gord
 
hercster said:
Just for the record and perhaps to clarify, the gun out of the box was a DA/SA so that I would qualify for "production" It is still a DA/SA pistol but I'm disqualified from "production" because of modifications done by Bruce Gray. If you look closely, the dust cover has been re-profiled and a significant amount of metal removed. Weight was also removed by narrowing the beavertail. The inside of the dust cover was also relieved. All of that was part of Gray's Lightening process that includes other tuning and refining. It was a great gun new and now is measurably better. However the action was not changed. My first shot in matches is still DA.
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If you are shooting in standard, why didn't you go with the SAO X-5?


Claven2 said:
Ford!, no Chevy!, no, Dodge!

No well known brand-name pistol adopted by a major military power is junk. The bias from pistol to pistol is all just personal taste.
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We're drifting off topic, but...
The failure of the M9 as an issued service pistol is well documented in the various US services that field it. If it was a reliable pistol, US Marines, SOCOM and other elements wouldn't be spending their scarce unit funds on finding and buying replacements.
Also well documented is the way in which it was procured. Politics and money drives the bus and things like reliability and quality take a back seat.
Don't blame me It's a pos. ;)
 
beltfed said:
If you are shooting in standard, why didn't you go with the SAO X-5?

Because at the beginning I wanted to shoot production and have maximum flexibility. The X-Five was my first gun I have another SIG P-226 now for production and I use the X-five or a 1911 in standard. The X-five is so good now that I hardly notice the DA pull. So after that first round I have essentially the same as a SAO. My SA trigger is perfect and around 2.5 pounds or less.
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