The one we have is 3 tons for a 17X48... The chip pan is cast into the frame... lol
Looking for a gunsmithing lathe??
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The one we have is 3 tons for a 17X48... The chip pan is cast into the frame... lol
Dunno if they just ain't showing the stuff, or if it just doesn't come with the usual assortment of accoutrements and accessories one would usually expect to get. Strongly suspect the tooling for that one will sit around the shop the lathe came from, until nobody remembers why it was kept, then it will be turfed into the scrap bin.
Nice machine, but really expensive to tool up to a similar standard!
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Trev
That is a ML7, not 10. The 10 has a solid bed, the 7 has two flat ways.
Too damn bad that they do not show what is in the box at the bottom of the stand (a factory Myford stand, BTW). The goodies can make or break the deal.
http://www.lathes.co.uk/myfordml10/
http://www.lathes.co.uk/myford-ml7/index.html
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Trev
No doubt!
Myford lathes are quite well made and better thought through than almost all of their peers. They were affordable new, too, earlier on, something they certainly were not in the last decade or so of the company being in operation.
I have met a couple folks that ordered their ML or Super 7 lathes brand new, and while they were certainly not inexpensive, they were affordable by a motivated working man, which the last of the Myfords certainly were not.
The first lathe I bought (other than a little watchmakers lathe) was a ML 7, and it served me pretty well. I sold it to upgrade to a Super 7, and regretted parting with it, as I had gotten quite used to being able to switch from one lathe to the other, while working on various projects.
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Trev
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https://www.gcsurplus.ca/mn-eng.cfm...htype=&lci=&str=1<nf=1&frmsr=1&sf=ferm-clos
I've seen this lathe in person... it's in incredible shape. Almost new shape except for faded paint. If I had room, I'd grab it in an instant... But it's a big MF...
I've seen this lathe in person... it's in incredible shape. Almost new shape except for faded paint. If I had room, I'd grab it in an instant... But it's a big MF...
Yeah, crazy capability, made to a great standard!
Way outta my league to move and keep though. Monarch was REALLY generous when they started hanging dimensions on their lathes. Understated to a fault, with the capacities well over the other machines that shared the same designation. Not cheap with the cast iron, not cheap with anything!
A friend of mine has a slightly smaller (CK model, IIRC) Monarch, and it would not be a good lath to use for chambering in the headstock, as the headstock is longer than many barrels. Kinda hard to set up a spider in the middle of the bore!
Great machine, and you could not by similar made today.
Gonna need a crane over the bed, or room for a forklift, to load and unload, though!
Cheers
Trev
Way outta my league to move and keep though. Monarch was REALLY generous when they started hanging dimensions on their lathes. Understated to a fault, with the capacities well over the other machines that shared the same designation. Not cheap with the cast iron, not cheap with anything!
A friend of mine has a slightly smaller (CK model, IIRC) Monarch, and it would not be a good lath to use for chambering in the headstock, as the headstock is longer than many barrels. Kinda hard to set up a spider in the middle of the bore!
Great machine, and you could not by similar made today.
Gonna need a crane over the bed, or room for a forklift, to load and unload, though!
Cheers
Trev
Yeah, crazy capability, made to a great standard!
Way outta my league to move and keep though. Monarch was REALLY generous when they started hanging dimensions on their lathes. Understated to a fault, with the capacities well over the other machines that shared the same designation. Not cheap with the cast iron, not cheap with anything!
A friend of mine has a slightly smaller (CK model, IIRC) Monarch, and it would not be a good lath to use for chambering in the headstock, as the headstock is longer than many barrels. Kinda hard to set up a spider in the middle of the bore!
Great machine, and you could not by similar made today.
Gonna need a crane over the bed, or room for a forklift, to load and unload, though!
Cheers
Trev
http://pacifictoolandgauge.com/lath...ambering-fixture-jig-viper-international.html
Could possibly make it work to chamber through the headstock with something like this to hold the barrel...
Gonna have a heckuva time adjusting it while the barrel is stuck halfway down that long bore.
Short answer. No.
But with a bed as long as that, it isn't that much of an ordeal, to set up the muzzle end in a four jaw chuck and use a steady rest.
Otherwise, you have to come up with a means to adjust the barrel while also sorting out how to measure the runout, all while working down the bore of the spindle.
Sorta reminds me of the joke about the Colo-rectal surgeon that rebuilt the car engine through the tailpipe, that!
Seems a lot harder to do than it should be!
Cheers
Trev
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Man I dream of having a machine like that for my "cannon" hobby, my 1440 Taiwanese hobby lathe is a good machine within a "non-commercial" realm but workpiece size limitations limit my "hobby enjoyment" . I do have room for that Monarch but have no where near the power source it would require.
I think this may be a bit oversized for you cannon hobby... It's about 10' between centers. I'd guess it's north of 18k pounds. Get a 3 ph enclosed gen set and go for it. Those gen sets are going cheap right now.
Gonna have a heckuva time adjusting it while the barrel is stuck halfway down that long bore.
Short answer. No.
But with a bed as long as that, it isn't that much of an ordeal, to set up the muzzle end in a four jaw chuck and use a steady rest.
Otherwise, you have to come up with a means to adjust the barrel while also sorting out how to measure the runout, all while working down the bore of the spindle.
Sorta reminds me of the joke about the Colo-rectal surgeon that rebuilt the car engine through the tailpipe, that!
Seems a lot harder to do than it should be!
Cheers
Trev
While I understand what you're saying, I think there's a bit of a disconnect here... This device is about 8" long, and sits flush with the face of your chuck. You put your barrel through it, and you have screws like a spider in the front, middle and rear. If you're taking light cuts to cut the tennon, shoulder, and thread the barrel and chamber it, it should hold just fine. On the phone, the guy and PT&G told me that it eliminates the need for a rear spider until you get the barrels large enough that they'd engage the spider anyways... Bonus is that you'd be able to do all your adjusting near your measuring gauges anyways.
OK, looking at it hard, I can sorta see that. Maybe.
They don't make much of a compelling sale pitch there on the site. Sorta thing you wouldn't really look at twice, if you didn't already have a solid idea how it works or why you might want it.
That said, it's a tube with some tapped holes in it. Make one.
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Trev
Yes, but I had to be interested in it to get some information about it on the phone... makes it easier making one... Now, I need to get a dividing head... Or figure out how to get mine back together...
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amosfella;13021940[B said:
Nope...gives a guy room to "expand" his horizons, mmmm you know a replica of one of those WWII "Howitzers" might be intriguing and I think I have a piece of h/w pipe 8 ft long laying in the shop that is close to 105 mm bore......should have never come close to this thread.
I honestly don't know how without skates and a toe jack, someone could move that in that shop. Has to move about 25 feet to get under the crane...
