looking for a side by side
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Or you could piss away $1,000 on a new Stoeger or CZ. I haven't heard a lot of good things about the Huglo guns. Quality seems to be hit and miss.Claybuster said:Again we agree depending on the experience of the buyer. You can piss away $1,000 very quickly on a used sxs if you do not know what you are doing. Don't ask me how I know.
I agree on the Stoeger but not on the CZ. The early Huglu guns had some issues but the CZ branded guns that I've seen are better. A couple of the most knowledgeable sxs guys here, Sharptail and straightshooter, did a review on the CZ guns that is definitely worth reading.Win/64 said:
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121029
Ahsan Ahmed
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For under $1K new sxs CZ Bobwhites in config of straight stock, double triggers, (and extractors.....not a bad thing), splinter forend etc could be a true consolation for traditionalist folks compelled to make the best of a situation via a very small budget
The 20ga is the best, IMO and will adequately handle Upland very well, at least in Ontario. The 12ga, although well balanced is more on the heavier side at 7lbs......nevertheless, I found both to be very well regulated.
The 20ga is the best, IMO and will adequately handle Upland very well, at least in Ontario. The 12ga, although well balanced is more on the heavier side at 7lbs......nevertheless, I found both to be very well regulated.
I still say you can have it all in a used gun. For less money. There's still a lot of great German Belgian and Italian guns out there that have seen little use. Refer to the Internet. Be patient and educated. You may find "hunting" for them very rewarding. Guess I'm just a sucker for old guns.Ahsan Ahmed said:For under $1K new sxs CZ Bobwhites in config of straight stock, double triggers, (and extractors.....not a bad thing), splinter forend etc could be a true consolation for traditionalist folks compelled to make the best of a situation via a very small budget
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Ahsan Ahmed
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Win/64 said:
Agree that there are quality guns out there sometimes for sale.
However, one such found in "Excellent" condition/appropriate configuration (what I usually search for) for less money would be more a distant exception than the norm......99% of those guns are way over priced than what would be justified. And I do take my time to look
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Lyle if ever your not sure on a sxs, and you like the look, but its not new,just pm me anytime, I got some helpful tips for buying used
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Hey thanksWin/64 said:
, PM him instead, I never seem to have time to answer PM's.
Welcome Lyle. Problem are the exch. chokes.
You won't find a used SxS with exch. chokes, other than those that have been altered by a gunsmith. On top you have to deal with a limited offer on the Canadian market. Get a used German, Spanish or Belgium in the choke combination you need or get a new Stoeger, CZ with choke tubes.
Cheers
Martin
You won't find a used SxS with exch. chokes, other than those that have been altered by a gunsmith. On top you have to deal with a limited offer on the Canadian market. Get a used German, Spanish or Belgium in the choke combination you need or get a new Stoeger, CZ with choke tubes.
Cheers
Martin
Traditionally firearms from Europe or Japan have a bad reputation in North America since they are a serous threat to todays local firearm manufacturers, although they already made high quality firearms when bow and arrow was state of art in the 'New World'. Most if not all American firearm manufacturers have their roots in Europe.
Cheers
Martin
Cheers
Martin
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Ringneck
The "Ringneck" is the model you want, Lyle.
Have a look here:
http://www.cz-usa.com/product_detail.php?id=62
The CZ's are the best value you'll find in a new sxs with interchangeable choke tubes. There are 2 aspects to the line that are less than ideal - neither of them insurmountable.
1) They're very tight out of the box. This can be somewhat annoying, but isn't a big negative in my estimation. You can either slick the contact surfaces on the action, or just wait - it'll become smoother with use.
2) As others have mentioned, the finish can be inconsistent. I would recommend buying one that is in stock, or asking your dealer if you can send it back (before accepting delivery), if you happen to get one with rough finish. Usually it's the checkering that is a little rough (at least you know they're hand checkered). I don't consider this a big issue either, considering the price point and the fact that you don't have to accept any particular one if it doesn't look right.
None of these points affect the performance of the gun. I agree that the 20 gauge is my first choice for upland hunting (primarily due to it's quick handling and reduced weight - a true scale-framed receiver).
The "Ringneck" is the model you want, Lyle.
Have a look here:
http://www.cz-usa.com/product_detail.php?id=62
The CZ's are the best value you'll find in a new sxs with interchangeable choke tubes. There are 2 aspects to the line that are less than ideal - neither of them insurmountable.
1) They're very tight out of the box. This can be somewhat annoying, but isn't a big negative in my estimation. You can either slick the contact surfaces on the action, or just wait - it'll become smoother with use.
2) As others have mentioned, the finish can be inconsistent. I would recommend buying one that is in stock, or asking your dealer if you can send it back (before accepting delivery), if you happen to get one with rough finish. Usually it's the checkering that is a little rough (at least you know they're hand checkered). I don't consider this a big issue either, considering the price point and the fact that you don't have to accept any particular one if it doesn't look right.
None of these points affect the performance of the gun. I agree that the 20 gauge is my first choice for upland hunting (primarily due to it's quick handling and reduced weight - a true scale-framed receiver).
Ahsan Ahmed
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Lyle, sxs are great but to get one that's truly good quality you'll be spending considerably more than $1000.
Side by sides are a lot like artwork. Some people purchase it simply for the need to decorate, others because it speaks to them in some way. For the former price is the deciding factor, for the latter it's the emotion they get from it.
The Stoeger's are working guns nothing more, the CZ's somewhat better, but if you're getting a sxs get something that speaks to you. The only way to find that out is by handling a bunch of them, then price becomes somewhat less relevant as you'll fine a lot of ways to justify the price
If you're looking for a hunting gun in that price range that feels good to shoulder may I suggest a Benelli Montefeltro in 20ga. I recently handled one and was amazed at the feel when I shouldered it. Handles more like a magic wand, very light and trim. Guess what's next on my list?
Side by sides are a lot like artwork. Some people purchase it simply for the need to decorate, others because it speaks to them in some way. For the former price is the deciding factor, for the latter it's the emotion they get from it.
The Stoeger's are working guns nothing more, the CZ's somewhat better, but if you're getting a sxs get something that speaks to you. The only way to find that out is by handling a bunch of them, then price becomes somewhat less relevant as you'll fine a lot of ways to justify the price
If you're looking for a hunting gun in that price range that feels good to shoulder may I suggest a Benelli Montefeltro in 20ga. I recently handled one and was amazed at the feel when I shouldered it. Handles more like a magic wand, very light and trim. Guess what's next on my list?
