Looking For Advice On Bases.........

Max Owner

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Hey all.

Here is my story........

I have a Remington 700P in 338 Lapua. I am gonna try a Millet scope on it. It may work, it may not. The scope has 140 MOA of elevation.

This could be a temporary set up. I plan on using a flat base for this. How would you put in the screws to hold the base? Removable grade lock tite or some other evil?

If the Millet sux and decides to stop working, it will get repaired and put on another lesser caliber rifle.

So then I would get my Nightforce and put a 25MOA base or maybe a 40. I would have to get the flat base off without breaking any screws.

I have had this damn rifle for 2 years and never shot it becausse the scope I want is around $2,000. The Millet is a way of getting it out and shooting.
 
If you use blue locktite you will be fine. Mine has been sitting in the safe for a couple weeks and it is driving me nuts. Cant imagine waiting 2 years.
 
I have been going back and forth to bases and scopes. I wanted an alpha mount from Richard Near but cant get in touch with him so I have been looking for the direct mount from Nightforce but havent found anyone here that stocks them. Lots of choices out there but for the 338 I have been looking for something with a recoil lug in it. Not sure if it will make a huge difference but I think it will be worth spending the extra cash this time.
 
Max Owner said:
Hey all.

Here is my story........

I have a Remington 700P in 338 Lapua. I am gonna try a Millet scope on it. It may work, it may not. The scope has 140 MOA of elevation.

This could be a temporary set up. I plan on using a flat base for this. How would you put in the screws to hold the base? Removable grade lock tite or some other evil?

If the Millet sux and decides to stop working, it will get repaired and put on another lesser caliber rifle.

So then I would get my Nightforce and put a 25MOA base or maybe a 40. I would have to get the flat base off without breaking any screws.

I have had this damn rifle for 2 years and never shot it becausse the scope I want is around $2,000. The Millet is a way of getting it out and shooting.
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Max why noy just go with a plus 20 to begin with?
The Millett seems to have lots of elevation anyway. If it does not work out then you still have the right rail even if you go 8x32 NF to get just beyond the 1 mile mark.
Blue loctite would be your best bet, the old girls hair drier has enough heat to loosen it up if you need to change something.
 
Eventually once you get rid of that Millet...(you will), a sloped base will be a prerequisite to get you out to 2200 yards. Most of the higher end scopes only have 100-110 moa of adjustment. My suggestion to you would be to buy a good 40 moa base if you can find one for that rifle.
 
armorman said:
Eventually once you get rid of that Millet...(you will), a sloped base will be a prerequisite to get you out to 2200 yards. Most of the higher end scopes only have 100-110 moa of adjustment. My suggestion to you would be to buy a good 40 moa base if you can find one for that rifle.
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We make a GREAT plus 40 rail for the MLR rifle, no problem to find 1 just give us a call:D
 
Gee, thanx guys. :p

Rick brought up a good point about an inclined rail in the first place......

Can a 338 be zeroed at 100 meters/yards? I have read that the bullets don't have a chance to stabilize in that short of a distance.

Also (which may be moot as per above) can a scope with a 40 MOA base be zeroed at at 100 yard/meters? My range has up to 200 meters. Range will be used for intial rifle set up and load development.
 
The base will work in your favour. If the scope sits level you will only have half the adjustment up and the rest down. A 40 moa base will still leave you with lots of adjustment at 100 with your scope. My scope only had 46 moa of adjustment in total and with a 20moa rail I still have a 100 yard zero with a little extra room to move. The more moa you have the better if you plan on the long range stuff. Hope to see a picture of your spot when you had a chance to play there for a bit;)
 
Max Owner said:
Gee, thanx guys. :p

Rick brought up a good point about an inclined rail in the first place......

Can a 338 be zeroed at 100 meters/yards? I have read that the bullets don't have a chance to stabilize in that short of a distance.

Also (which may be moot as per above) can a scope with a 40 MOA base be zeroed at at 100 yard/meters? My range has up to 200 meters. Range will be used for intial rifle set up and load development.
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I am running a plus 40 on my 338 LAI the NF8x32 I am using only has 65 moa total elevation but I have no issue with 100 yard zero and as far as not stabilizing at 100 yards, that is pure myth.

As mentioned with 140 in the scope you have TONS of room to accomodate a plus 20 or 40 rail, personally with 140 in the scope a plus 40 rail would not be my 1st choice as you will run out of gun before you max out on elevation.

This is my table using 300 gr SMKs, zero at 100 yards, velocity 10 feet from muzzle of 2960 fps
Yards elevation velocity
0 0.00 0.00 0.00 -2.3 0.0 0.0 2960 5835 0.0 0.0000
25 5.00 0.00 1.75 -1.3 -0.0 0.4 2933 5731 -0.1 0.0254
50 1.25 0.25 1.75 -0.6 -0.1 0.9 2907 5627 -0.5 0.0511
75 0.25 0.25 1.75 -0.2 -0.2 1.4 2880 5526 -1.1 0.0770
100 0.00 0.25 1.75 -0.0 -0.3 1.8 2854 5425 -2.0 0.1032
125 0.00 0.50 1.75 -0.1 -0.5 2.3 2828 5327 -3.2 0.1296
150 0.25 0.50 1.75 -0.5 -0.7 2.7 2802 5229 -4.6 0.1562
175 0.50 0.50 1.75 -1.1 -1.0 3.2 2776 5134 -6.3 0.1831
200 1.00 0.75 1.75 -2.0 -1.3 3.7 2751 5039 -8.3 0.2102
225 1.25 0.75 1.75 -3.2 -1.7 4.2 2725 4946 -10.6 0.2376
250 1.75 0.75 1.75 -4.7 -2.1 4.7 2700 4855 -13.1 0.2653
275 2.25 1.00 1.75 -6.5 -2.5 5.2 2675 4765 -16.0 0.2932
300 2.75 1.00 1.75 -8.6 -3.0 5.7 2650 4676 -19.2 0.3214
325 3.25 1.00 1.75 -11.0 -3.6 6.2 2625 4589 -22.6 0.3498
350 3.75 1.25 1.75 -13.8 -4.2 6.7 2600 4503 -26.4 0.3785
375 4.25 1.25 1.75 -16.8 -4.8 7.2 2576 4418 -30.5 0.4075
400 4.75 1.25 1.75 -20.2 -5.5 7.7 2551 4335 -35.0 0.4367
425 5.25 1.50 1.75 -23.9 -6.2 8.2 2527 4253 -39.7 0.4662
450 6.00 1.50 1.75 -27.9 -7.0 8.7 2503 4172 -44.8 0.4961
475 6.50 1.50 1.75 -32.3 -7.9 9.3 2479 4093 -50.3 0.5262
500 7.00 1.75 1.75 -37.1 -8.8 9.8 2455 4014 -56.1 0.5566
525 7.75 1.75 2.00 -42.2 -9.7 10.3 2431 3936 -62.3 0.5873
550 8.25 1.75 2.00 -47.6 -10.7 10.9 2407 3860 -68.8 0.6183
575 9.00 2.00 2.00 -53.5 -11.8 11.4 2384 3785 -75.7 0.6496
600 9.50 2.00 2.00 -59.7 -12.9 12.0 2360 3711 -83.0 0.6812
625 10.25 2.25 2.00 -66.3 -14.0 12.6 2337 3638 -90.7 0.7131
650 10.75 2.25 2.00 -73.4 -15.2 13.1 2314 3567 -98.8 0.7453
675 11.50 2.25 2.00 -80.8 -16.5 13.7 2291 3496 -107.3 0.7779
700 12.00 2.50 2.00 -88.6 -17.8 14.3 2268 3426 -116.2 0.8108
725 12.75 2.50 2.00 -96.9 -19.2 14.9 2245 3357 -125.5 0.8440
750 13.50 2.75 2.00 -105.6 -20.7 15.4 2222 3289 -135.3 0.8776
775 14.25 2.75 2.00 -114.7 -22.2 16.0 2200 3222 -145.5 0.9115
800 14.75 2.75 2.00 -124.3 -23.8 16.6 2177 3157 -156.1 0.9458
825 15.50 3.00 2.00 -134.3 -25.4 17.3 2155 3092 -167.2 0.9804
850 16.25 3.00 2.00 -144.8 -27.1 17.9 2132 3029 -178.8 1.0154
875 17.00 3.25 2.00 -155.8 -28.9 18.5 2110 2966 -190.8 1.0508
900 17.75 3.25 2.00 -167.2 -30.7 19.1 2088 2905 -203.3 1.0865
925 18.50 3.25 2.00 -179.2 -32.6 19.8 2067 2844 -216.4 1.1226
950 19.25 3.50 2.00 -191.7 -34.5 20.4 2045 2785 -229.9 1.1591
975 20.00 3.50 2.00 -204.7 -36.6 21.0 2023 2727 -244.0 1.1959
1000 20.75 3.75 2.00 -218.2 -38.7 21.7 2002 2669 -258.5 1.2332
1025 21.75 3.75 2.00 -232.2 -40.8 22.4 1981 2613 -273.7 1.2708
1050 22.50 4.00 2.00 -246.9 -43.1 23.0 1960 2558 -289.3 1.3089
1075 23.25 4.00 2.00 -262.0 -45.4 23.7 1939 2503 -305.6 1.3474
1100 24.00 4.25 2.00 -277.8 -47.8 24.4 1918 2450 -322.4 1.3863
1125 25.00 4.25 2.25 -294.2 -50.2 25.1 1897 2397 -339.8 1.4256
1150 25.75 4.50 2.25 -311.1 -52.8 25.8 1876 2345 -357.8 1.4653
1175 26.75 4.50 2.25 -328.7 -55.4 26.5 1856 2294 -376.5 1.5055
1200 27.50 4.50 2.25 -346.9 -58.1 27.2 1836 2244 -395.7 1.5462
1225 28.50 4.75 2.25 -365.7 -60.8 27.9 1816 2195 -415.7 1.5872
1250 29.50 4.75 2.25 -385.2 -63.7 28.7 1795 2147 -436.2 1.6288
1275 30.25 5.00 2.25 -405.4 -66.6 29.4 1775 2099 -457.5 1.6708
1300 31.25 5.00 2.25 -426.3 -69.6 30.2 1755 2052 -479.4 1.7133
1325 32.25 5.25 2.25 -447.8 -72.7 30.9 1735 2006 -502.0 1.7563
1350 33.25 5.25 2.25 -470.1 -75.9 31.7 1716 1961 -525.4 1.7997
1375 34.25 5.50 2.25 -493.1 -79.2 32.4 1696 1916 -549.5 1.8437
1400 35.25 5.75 2.25 -516.9 -82.6 33.2 1676 1872 -574.3 1.8882
1425 36.25 5.75 2.25 -541.5 -86.1 34.0 1657 1829 -599.9 1.9332
1450 37.25 6.00 2.25 -566.8 -89.6 34.8 1638 1787 -626.3 1.9787
1475 38.50 6.00 2.25 -593.0 -93.3 35.6 1619 1745 -653.6 2.0248
1500 39.50 6.25 2.25 -620.0 -97.0 36.5 1600 1705 -681.6 2.0714
1525 40.50 6.25 2.25 -647.8 -100.8 37.3 1582 1666 -710.5 2.1186
1550 41.75 6.50 2.25 -676.5 -104.8 38.1 1563 1628 -740.3 2.1663
1575 42.75 6.50 2.25 -706.1 -108.8 39.0 1545 1590 -770.9 2.2145
1600 44.00 6.75 2.50 -736.6 -112.9 39.8 1527 1554 -802.5 2.2634
1625 45.25 7.00 2.50 -768.0 -117.2 40.7 1510 1518 -835.0 2.3128
1650 46.25 7.00 2.50 -800.4 -121.5 41.6 1492 1483 -868.4 2.3628
1675 47.50 7.25 2.50 -833.8 -126.0 42.5 1475 1449 -902.9 2.4133
1700 48.75 7.25 2.50 -868.1 -130.5 43.4 1458 1416 -938.3 2.4645
1725 50.00 7.50 2.50 -903.5 -135.2 44.3 1441 1384 -974.7 2.5163
1750 51.25 7.75 2.50 -939.9 -139.9 45.2 1425 1352 -1012.2 2.5686
1775 52.50 7.75 2.50 -977.4 -144.8 46.1 1408 1321 -1050.8 2.6216
1800 54.00 8.00 2.50 -1016 -149.8 47.1 1392 1291 -1090.4 2.6752
1825 55.25 8.00 2.50 -1056 -154.8 48.0 1376 1260 -1131.2 2.7294
1850 56.50 8.25 2.50 -1097 -160.0 49.0 1360 1231 -1173.2 2.7843
1875 58.00 8.50 2.50 -1139 -165.4 50.0 1344 1203 -1216.3 2.8399
1900 59.50 8.50 2.50 -1182 -170.8 51.0 1329 1176 -1260.6 2.8960
1925 60.75 8.75 2.50 -1226 -176.3 52.0 1314 1149 -1306.1 2.9529
1950 62.25 9.00 2.50 -1272 -182.0 53.0 1299 1124 -1352.9 3.0103
1975 63.75 9.00 2.50 -1319 -187.7 54.0 1285 1099 -1401.0 3.0685
2000 65.25 9.25 2.75 -1367 -193.6 55.0 1271 1076 -1450.4 3.1272
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
I am running a plus 40 on my 338 LAI the NF8x32 I am using only has 65 moa total elevation but I have no issue with 100 yard zero and as far as not stabilizing at 100 yards, that is pure myth.

As mentioned with 140 in the scope you have TONS of room to accomodate a plus 20 or 40 rail, personally with 140 in the scope a plus 40 rail would not be my 1st choice as you will run out of gun before you max out on elevation.

This is my table using 300 gr SMKs, zero at 100 yards, velocity 10 feet from muzzle of 2960 fps



In case the Millet causes me grief, I think I may wanna be ready to deal with the next scope.
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