Looking for an Ontario deer hunter with a hound

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I have always wanted to try deer hunting with hounds, and it is something on my bucket list. Have owned bird hunting labs for many years, and hunted rabbits with a hound once many years ago, but now want to try it for deer.

We have an established deer camp approx 2 hrs North of Toronto with permanent accommodations. Heated clubhouse, separate bedrooms, running water, etc. Looking for an experienced deer hunter with a trained deer hound(s) to possibly join us November 2019 for week 1 of the season. Our group each year consists of 8-10 great guys from all walks of life. The common denominator is a passion for the sport and SAFETY. Expenses are shared equally and we usually hire a cook.

We hunt a large tract of mostly private land, in Canadian shield country. There are no other hunters in our area. Traditionally we perform drives (without dogs) throughout the day, and then sit out evenings. Our success ratio is reasonably high, and we have harvested several very large bucks. I now want to try adding in a hound to the equation. The country is perfect for it, and it should result in many more seen deer. There are numerous large islands, and other runs with choke points between lakes, where the dog can be stopped. If you have a trained deer hound, and are looking to join a great group, please send me a PM. We can then chat, get together for a coffee or beer to see if we are comfortable with each other, and take it from there. I know I am starting early, but better than leaving it till too late. This gives us ample time to get comfortable with each other. If things work out long term, then I am sure the group will be willing to pitch in towards the costs of maintaining the dog(s) and the purchase of radio collars, etc.

Added June 13 2019
I have received a number of comments but as of yet no-one interested so am bumping to the top. In terms of the comments, firstly my thanks. They have all been relevant and sincere. In terms of a response, I have owned several labs that I trained for field trails and used extensively for ducks & pheasants, so certainly appreciate and respect the amount of time and effort they take to maintain. I also appreciate the cost involved, and it would be only fair for all members of the hunt party to contribute. I have heard the stories of chasing deer all day and hounds all night from old timers, but I assume with the new and much more economical collar technology now available, lost dogs would be much easier to locate than in the past. Again the cost of the collars would be shared by all. We hunt an area that is really boat access only (unless you want to walk in 5+ miles from the nearest road, then drag your deer 5 miles out. It is “big timber” Canadian Shield with no ATV trails) which includes a number of larger “islands” connected by narrow spits that serve as choke points. These choke points are where we have our watches, and a hound would need to pass by within 20 yards of a hunter on many of the runs. Hopefully this would allow for the hunter to stop the dog and prevent him from passing by and getting “lost”. We use numerous 14ft boats with 9.9HP engines (and also a few canoes for some runs), to get around and into position. Obviously some of the runs would not lend themselves for using dogs, but many would be ideally suited.

Yes, we do have good success without the use of hounds, but there is just something about the baying of hounds that appeals to me. I hunted rabbits over a hound many years ago, and relished the experience. As mentioned in my original posting, hunting deer with a hound is on my bucket list. In terms of getting a hound myself, it is certainly something I have thought about. Unfortunately a couple years ago we downsized our home in the city, and moved into a condo. We also own a country home with 100 acres of bush that we plan to retire to, but for now only go there on weekends. Once we move there full time I will be in a better position to own a hound myself. For now it would not be fair to the dog in a condo. Not to mention the neighbors if the dog bayed throughout the day.

For those of you familiar with deer hounds, is it best to keep them strictly trained for deer, or can they be effectively cross trained for rabbits as well? Obviously I would hate to have the hound start chasing a rabbit when we were out for deer.

Hopefully there is someone out there with a hound that wants to join a group, or maybe whose deer camp has folded due to lack of new younger blood joining in. If so, I would love to hear from you.

Below is a pic of our 2017 harvest. 4 bucks, 2 does, and 2 bears. Below it is a pic of the buck I shot from a canoe when out for the late afternoon hunt (not a deer drive).
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Can I ask why you wouldn't purchase your own hounds??? Beagles will chase deer I would suggest the larger version 15" for deer hounds and get 2 or 3. If you want to move them faster running walker hounds would be next on the list. To get them to chase is just to get them into the woods they are born to hunt. Please note dogs take a commitment they need to be fed and watered, clean kennels etc and if you want good hunting hounds you need to commit to running them every chance you can. Dog hunters enjoy the dogs as much as hunting. If you don't enjoy dogs stick to just using people to move deer.
 
Can I ask why you wouldn't purchase your own hounds??? Beagles will chase deer I would suggest the larger version 15" for deer hounds and get 2 or 3. If you want to move them faster running walker hounds would be next on the list. To get them to chase is just to get them into the woods they are born to hunt. Please note dogs take a commitment they need to be fed and watered, clean kennels etc and if you want good hunting hounds you need to commit to running them every chance you can. Dog hunters enjoy the dogs as much as hunting. If you don't enjoy dogs stick to just using people to move deer.
Going by my experience in my old camp, none of the guys in camp want the trouble and expense of having and caring for hounds. Not to mention the risk of losing them. For us, we went through four different guys that had hounds, myself included. It's a lot of work and expense. No radio collars back then. It was hunt deer all day, and dogs all night. You got to visit all the neighboring camps that way. I loved my dogs, but I knew when they were done I wanted no more. There is no better sound to me in the world than a hound on chase. Simply awesome.
 
Going by my experience in my old camp, none of the guys in camp want the trouble and expense of having and caring for hounds. Not to mention the risk of losing them. For us, we went through four different guys that had hounds, myself included. It's a lot of work and expense. No radio collars back then. It was hunt deer all day, and dogs all night. You got to visit all the neighboring camps that way. I loved my dogs, but I knew when they were done I wanted no more. There is no better sound to me in the world than a hound on chase. Simply awesome.

This was my experience as well. I love hunting with hounds and have shot many deer in front of my long past beagle. Hounds require a ton of work and they don't just quit chasing when the day is done. can make for long stressful nights searching for your dogs and it is be heartbreaking to loose one. If you want to use hounds to hunt, a guy has to understand the level of dedication and care they require.
 
We have hunted with hounds for years, and as stated it can be a lot of work and frustration. Personally, I think the benefit of hounds is overstated. What is particularly beneficial is having your hunting neighbors push the bush with hounds!
 
We run 4 deer hounds. 6 people in our group, one who looks after the dogs. The remaining 5 people each fund $200 per year in food and supplies. $1000 per year recurring cost. Additionally, we bought a tracker and 4 collars, for another 200 per hunter, and built 4 dog houses. Additionally, we paid for the pups and then there is the time investment of training them. It takes several years before the hounds get good.

(I'm getting to my point), From experience, most people who are dedicated to owning their own deer hunting hounds, have spent fifty weeks of feeding and caring for the hounds, often cost sharing with a group of hunters and only have two weeks to hunt with them. Furthermore, it is best to hunt the dogs in the same location that they have been hunting in prior years. They learn the land, and know how to come home.

As such, most deer hound owners, and their dogs, would likely not be available first or second week of November. I do wish you success in finding someone.
 
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I used to have a bluetick hound that I was given as a pup when I was 15 years old and started going to deer camp with my dad, uncle and their hunting gang that has been going since 1952. Many generations of fathers and sons go each fall and in addition to my dog we had two other guys with 2 dogs each. As a 15 year old eager kid I loved training and running my dog year round. When we went hunting and my dog opened up and put a deer in front of one of our guys it was such a sense of accomplishment. After that dog I had a redbone beagle mut then last hound was a beagle. There is so much work into caring for the dog between food and vet bills, adequate exercise and training. Unless you have been around these hound guys and know how much they put into a successful dog then you will realize how precious these dogs are and extremely valuable. I would love to one day have the time to commit into having another hound, there is no other kind of hunting than with hounds, especially for guys like me who can't stand staying still.

I wish you all the best into finding a great dog and just as important a guy who fits in well with your group. Just remember the commitment he put into his dog and treat him well.
 
I echo everyone's fond feelings about the hard work of training and keeping a dog (mine just bonked me with his chew toy and wanted to tussle), and the joy of hunting with them. One of my most outstanding duck blind memories is watching a Lab' named after a #### actress, vibrate waiting to go get cold and wet to bring in our birds. And yes, good luck with finding someone to join the party.
 
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