Looking for Constructive Critcism.....

1) I like the .45 too, but in Standard it's a handicap. If you really want a gun to tinker with AND shoot .45, go Classic division and shoot a SS .45
2) we've been using .40 for years with little trouble, it's not an issue. Trust me you'll lose the brass long before you shoot it enough to make it brittle and .40 brass is everywhere and usually cheap.
3) nothing wrong with going to open though I usually recommend shooters start in production or classic and just learn about the sport, loading ammo and maintaining the gun before going to open.
4) 9mm major is only in Open division so unless you go that way (the guns are built to handle it and quite safe) then there's no point. But you can shoot 9mm minor in classic and be competitive or in production where there is no Major.
If you are loading .45 anyways and like it, I suggest shooting Classic and go from there.
 
a sti trojan, in 9 or 45 is pretty much the best value for what you get out of the box at this point - after the initial break in period you can run the gun ragged without any major issues and or upgrade along the way which is breeze with these...

also if you set on 45, shoot classic - the division has a good mix of folks using major and minor
 
out of the box..the tanfoglio Limited Custom .40 is the best bang for your buck for standard division. Get rid of the firing pin block, and make sure your mags are tuned to proper gap at the feed lips. You are good to go.
 
maurice said:
out of the box..the tanfoglio Limited Custom .40 is the best bang for your buck for standard division. Get rid of the firing pin block, and make sure your mags are tuned to proper gap at the feed lips. You are good to go.
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But for $300 more he can get into an STI .40....it's where he'll end up eventually anyways. Might as well start with a 1911 or 2011 platform gun. :D
 
plus mags for the sti....plus basepads...plus a fibre optic front sight.....try more like $600+.
 
maurice said:
plus mags for the sti....plus basepads...plus a fibre optic front sight.....try more like $600+.
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Plus gunsmith time to get a decent trigger, lightening the slide, and the fact the it requires an knowledgeable and seasoned shooter to deal with routine maintenance on 2011’s make the Tanfoglios a better option for a new shooter .
 
babo_al said:
Plus gunsmith time to get a decent trigger, lightening the slide, and the fact the it requires an knowledgeable and seasoned shooter to deal with routine maintenance on 2011’s make the Tanfoglios a better option for a new shooter .
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The only gun that does not require routine maintenance is a Glock ;)
 
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also,..I noticed you are lacking a colorfull cool guy shirt....this is a mistake. Don't let it happen again. Pretty soon, people will start showing up to matches to try and get gooder at shooting, instead of looking really- REALLY cool.



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:agree: ipsc is about how you look. fake it till ya make it



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IPSC is like making gooder shooting in your head akin to a noob golfer shooting 100+ with a $2500 bag.

Same thing, lol.
 
oh boy...... im sorry guys i'm not shooting tupperware.

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But for $300 more he can get into an [COLOR=#ff0000](infinity) or  [/COLOR]STI .40....it's where he'll end up eventually anyways. Might as well start with a 1911 or 2011 platform gun.

tanfoglio is not 2011 1911...?


ok except for the tupperware comment :) i agree with what you guys are saying. maybe a little more info is needed continue the discussion this is great.


-Like i said i shoot norinco (and now that i'm waivering in my decision to but para cause i opened my big mouth lol probably doing my BB course with it)
-I have option to shoot In the US with a crew that goes and its very reasonably cost but i cannot import my chinese gun into the states so i'd like to stop borrowing and buy
- locally there is small 1-4 stage match here at another shooting club then i'm a member of but still in town the US matches are 5-10 stages(2 hour drive) monthly nothing else within 3 hours drive

So this being said i wanted to get a different gun that was US importable but something tighter and mildly better then my norinco as a stepping stone to the big dogs...without breaking the bank

honestly i will have an infinity gun one day they are the most ###y looking machine i have ever laid my eyes on. and the sti IPSC or edge i feel very strongly about too. perhaps shooting multiple divisions is in my future as i am 150% addicted to the sport like nothing else in my life. better then chocholate better then ### blah blah im' sure you guys get the pic....

so back on track..... is there not some kinda of a bridge between a sti/svi/tangfolio and a norinco...... besides kimber <---- all name brand junk IMHO

i thought i was doing the right thing going for a para(the best gun in this class of guns) within this sence of the argument..... a double stack (so i can unpin the mags while shooting in the US to 14 rounds) para stainless steel 45 for this season and possibly next year or the year after move up to the big dogs........... worrie about divison and calibers and comittiment after i've shot another season and got the basics down pat more..... i've already showed an example of how i shoot as far as i'm concerned the skys the limit

gun #### teaser....

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maurice said:
plus mags for the sti....plus basepads...plus a fibre optic front sight.....try more like $600+.
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Mags for the STI are the same price as the TF, unless the TF comes with 6 mags its not such a big advantage. and you don't need a fiber front, it's personal preference for some but is probably stick with straight steel front. So maybe you spend an extra $75-$150 for mags.
And did I mention its a 1911? :D
 
I'd recommend doing the BB and at least the first couple matches (more like your first season) with a production set up. Nothing fancy - blade tech holster and pouches and something cheap like a Glock 17.
While you are doing that (and learning the game, movement, working on your accuracy and drills) you can fart around with making up your standard, classic or open rig.
When one of those sh!t the bed on you later on, you'll have your production rig to fall back on or introduce new shooters to the sport.
 
I know where there is a nice tuned up STI Edge for sale :) ya know what i mean wink wink nudge nudge

yeah cuz no production gun has ever #### the bed :rolleyes: nothing wrong with doing the BB with a limited or open gun.

in the end you'll have the most fun in the game shooting the gun you like most. If you want that para then go get it. The advice to avoid it come from the fact that pretty much everyone who starts with one upgrades to an Infinity or STI, or at the very least rips almost everything out to replaces with better parts. Nationals has been won by a Para and one of the guys on the last Canadian Standard team used one, but those were not in the same configuration as they left the factory.
 
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Mags for the STI are the same price as the TF, unless the TF comes with 6 mags its not such a big advantage. and you don't need a fiber front, it's personal preference for some but is probably stick with straight steel front. So maybe you spend an extra $75-$150 for mags.
And did I mention its a 1911? :D
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and you cant get a sight tracker on a tanfoglio... not that i have seen at least.


to OP

go to freedom venture's site, order a spartan or trojan in 9mm (whichever your budget likes best, trojan is worth the extra but i bought a spartan), ask your "crew" for a good local smith, give him the gun for a trigger job, ambi saftey, and a magwell (sti one is fine), load tons of ammo, practice alot and attend matches. modify gun on top of that with grip tape/sights as you see fit as you learn the sport. two years later, spend the $2k+ on something you know you want with the mods you want and you wont even need to ask here what to get.
 
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Trying to pass of Airsoft Guns in this forum as gun #### is like steering your friends towards the "lady-boys" in Thailand.:p
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ya well ummmmm........ this is my winter practice gun for in the basement. An example of what you can do with a splashy branded 'techware' shirt and absolutely more gooder experience ....... ya anyway now that you know the rest of the story.......

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I'd recommend doing the BB and at least the first couple matches (more like your first season) with a production set up. Nothing fancy - blade tech holster and pouches and something cheap like a Glock 17.
While you are doing that (and learning the game, movement, working on your accuracy and drills) you can fart around with making up your standard, classic or open rig.
When one of those sh!t the bed on you later on, you'll have your production rig to fall back on or introduce new shooters to the sport.

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well you guys give someone a lot to think about..... i guess i need to think on it a bit more back to the drawing board before i go parting with my pennies, they don't make em anymore after all

thanks to all who participated :) cheers and keep shooting
 
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