Looking for gunsmith to fix Sako ejection issue

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I have Sako 85 300 WSM that ejects cases into scope and then falls back into feed ( by now, a well documented issue with the M85).

Is there any Canadian gunsmith out there who can fix this issue? Alternatively, does any know a product out there that addresses this issue ( e.g., a picatinny-like rail system with an angle that will deflect ejected case so that it does not hit scope and/ or fall back into magazine). Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

N.B. I don't have the knowledge, skill nor confidence to try fixes myself (e.g., replacing extractor/spring)
 
You could try moving the scope a bit forward or back. If they are hitting the windage cover a slight angle change may throw them elsewhere. With low optilock bases and rings in 30 mm my cases contacted the windage cover and only marked it up. When I lightened things up I went to 1” low sako ringmounts with a smaller scope and have no issues. Certain caliber 85s can be finicky and it may be worth it to have a gunsmith do the mount instead of having to buy multiple rings to find what works best.
 
Some rotate the scope 90 degrees and have the windage on top, elevation on the left... a little figuring out when sighting in...
 
guntech said:
Some rotate the scope 90 degrees and have the windage on top, elevation on the left... a little figuring out when sighting in...
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Is it possible to add a second ejector plunger to change the angle it tosses the brass out at?
 
guntech said:
Some rotate the scope 90 degrees and have the windage on top, elevation on the left... a little figuring out when sighting in...
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. And it shouldn't be too hard to figure probably - the L-R gets changed to U-D and vice versa; Its possible on some scopes that their is less windage than elevation but IDK.
 
BearClan said:
I have Sako 85 300 WSM that ejects cases into scope and then falls back into feed ( by now, a well documented issue with the M85).

Is there any Canadian gunsmith out there who can fix this issue? Alternatively, does any know a product out there that addresses this issue ( e.g., a picatinny-like rail system with an angle that will deflect ejected case so that it does not hit scope and/ or fall back into magazine). Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

N.B. I don't have the knowledge, skill nor confidence to try fixes myself (e.g., replacing extractor/spring)
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It's a 2000+ dollar rifle...send it back to Sako for warranty! !!!
 
Sako will not address this issue as many who have contacted them have found out. Here's the response from Beretta:


Sako-Tikka Ejection Issues
Answer ID 997 | Published 09/05/2014 04:25 PM | Updated 09/05/2014 04:25 PM
I purchased a Sako 85 rifle and mounted a scope on it. I'm having issues with spent brass striking the scope. What can I do to resolve this issue?

Occasionally, we receive customer complaints regarding Sako rifles ejecting spent cases that either strike the scope or strike the scope turret and fall back inside the action of the rifle. This situation is predominately caused by both the scope mounts and type of scope (particularly scopes with extended turrets) installed on the rifle. A secondary consideration is how rigorously the bolt is operated by the user.

Beretta will not consider rifles that exhibit the condition above to be a warranty issue. Provided that the rifle fully extracts and ejects the spent casing, the rifle will be considered functional and serviceable. Sako Arms cannot anticipate every possible scope mounting configuration when designing their rifles. Since the selection and installation of the scope and mounts are determined by the owner, it is the owner's responsibility to ensure that the system will not interfere with the operation of the rifle.

An extremely small number of rifles have been returned for service for this issue and our analysis has indicated that the combination of scope mounts, scope type and scope turret location in relation to the ejection path of the spent casing have been the proximate cause creating this condition. In order to alleviate this condition, we recommend that the owner try various scope mounting options to find the one that works best.
 
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The extractor spring is very easy to replace and you could definitely do it yourself. If I remember correct it was push downwards and pull out. The spring I ordered for $5 shipped and it definitely helped. Otherwise you can put on a difference scope that mounts either further forward or further back or install higher rings. I have a zeiss HD5 on mine and the turret location lines up better than the previous leupold that I had on there.
 
The cause of the problem is too much clearance between the claw of the extractor and the face of the bolt. So there is a few thousandths too much clearance between the rim of the cartridge and the claw. Because of the slack, when the ejector blade hits the case at the 6 o'clock position, the case starts to move upwards instead of to the side. It achieves enough momentum to continue moving upwards and hits the scope adjustment turret.

Some "problem" model 85 Sako rifles, like my M85 Bavarian 7x64 can be easily fixed by a extra length / extra strength extractor spring that holds the extractor claw against the case with a bit more tension as it is extracted. I bought the appropriate spring from Gary Eakin, Bighorn Sales in Houston BC.

My Sako M85 Kodiak .375 H&H did not respond to the stronger spring trick. And I wanted to use it as a dangerous game rifle. Not good. It was fixed by having a new extractor claw built by a skilled machinist. It now has 0.004" clearance between rim of case and claw when case is firmly against the bolt face. Now it is perfectly functional. I wish Sako would have designed the extractor claw properly to begin with. It's the only defect I have found with their rifles.
 
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Longwalker said:
The cause of the problem is too much clearance between the claw of the extractor and the face of the bolt. So there is a few thousandths too much clearance between the rim of the cartridge and the claw. Because of the slack, when the ejector blade hits the case at the 6 o'clock position, the case starts to move upwards instead of to the side. It achieves enough momentum to continue moving upwards and hits the scope adjustment turret.

Some "problem" model 85 Sako rifles, like my M85 Bavarian 7x64 can be easily fixed by a extra length / extra strength extractor spring that holds the extractor claw against the case with a bit more tension as it is extracted. I bought the appropriate spring from Gary Eakin, Bighorn Sales in Houston BC.

My Sako M85 Kodiak .375 H&H did not respond to the stronger spring trick. And I wanted to use it as a dangerous game rifle. Not good. It was fixed by having a new extractor claw built by a skilled machinist. It now has 0.004" clearance between rim of case and claw when case is firmly against the bolt face. Now it is perfectly functional. I wish Sako would have designed the extractor claw properly to begin with. It's the only defect I have found with their rifles.
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Excellent write up.
 
Best bet is to dump the piece of shyt and buy something that works...pathetic for for 2000.00 +dollar rifle.
 
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