^^^^ what he said!
Looking for my first Long Range rifle help….700 5r milspec vs….a few
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The barrel will be the single biggest contributor to precision...why recommend doing it last? If it was me and I was limited on funds it would be a used savage with a top bolt release and a laminate stock (easy to bed). And a good prefit shilen sis match or benchmark. If I had more funds then yeah the 700 would make sense, probably buy one that's been trued up and has a match barrel already on it.
It's not hard to be a better shooter than most factory rifles...contrary to what most people will say on here.
It's not hard to be a better shooter than most factory rifles...contrary to what most people will say on here.
I would extend the thought and could argue that reloading may be equally as important as the barrel. I'll also second your notion, buy the Savage and with the significant savings buy better optics or a reloading setup.
I always question the necessity to "hit 1000", with modern rifles its not a hard goal to achieve, but then what? Sell the rifle and move to pistols? If you like the challenge you will likely want to continue to stretch the distances and you won't be able to do that consistently or cost effectively without reloading.
The key is to get into the game and put time behind the trigger, then you will know what you like and don't like. But why break the bank doing it?
I agree with that as well, reloading is just as important as the barrel for shooting long range. But will yield much better results from a match barrel obviously. Getting bullets to 1000 is easy and not much fun....putting bullets on small targets at 1000 however...very addicting.
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700 is a great platform. I give respect where respect is due. I personally shoot heavily modified Winchester Model 70's, and recently I'm building up a Tikka T3 Tactical, .300 win mag, not a fan of all the plastic (or polymer, whatever it may be) but I'm working towards ridding it of such.
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I've shot side by side with plenty of Remmys but have had my hat handed to me on occasion only by the Savage FTR or Savage F Class rifle.
I have never seen any relatively low cost production rifle hold a candle to these two Savage rifles. Never.
There's lots or Remmy fan boys that will argue the point, but I never see them with gold medals at CFB Bordon.
At the heart of all rifles is the action and when you examine these two actions out of the stock, you will see clearly how little material the Remmy has between the ejection port and the magazine. The Savage has steel for about 300 degrees. That's more steel to keep the barrel from sagging and that reducing barrel harmonics when the rifle is fired. This is not brand bias, it's a mechanical fact.
I've seen a few Savage shooters embarrass guys with $5000 rifles. Never seen $1200 remmy guys do it.
side by side, my money is on the savage. ... and I shoot a tricked out remmy. it was money badly spent. There's only so much you can do with it before you realize the action is the weak link. Savage has the advantage from the start.
if you're just looking for minute of deer, it wont matter. If you want to shoot long range well, it sure does.
I have never seen any relatively low cost production rifle hold a candle to these two Savage rifles. Never.
There's lots or Remmy fan boys that will argue the point, but I never see them with gold medals at CFB Bordon.
At the heart of all rifles is the action and when you examine these two actions out of the stock, you will see clearly how little material the Remmy has between the ejection port and the magazine. The Savage has steel for about 300 degrees. That's more steel to keep the barrel from sagging and that reducing barrel harmonics when the rifle is fired. This is not brand bias, it's a mechanical fact.
I've seen a few Savage shooters embarrass guys with $5000 rifles. Never seen $1200 remmy guys do it.
side by side, my money is on the savage. ... and I shoot a tricked out remmy. it was money badly spent. There's only so much you can do with it before you realize the action is the weak link. Savage has the advantage from the start.
if you're just looking for minute of deer, it wont matter. If you want to shoot long range well, it sure does.
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I have had a pretty bad adventure with a Remington Target Tactical.....would not recommend.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1158843-Remington-700-Target-Tactical-Loose-Bolts-Unable-to-Feed
In the end, I went with a Remington 700P + Cadex Chassis. I am very happy now.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1158843-Remington-700-Target-Tactical-Loose-Bolts-Unable-to-Feed
In the end, I went with a Remington 700P + Cadex Chassis. I am very happy now.
