Looking for new Coyote Rifle - Need Opinions

CV32 said:
Don't overlook the fact that a fast twist 223 (pretty common to find em in 1 in 8 or 1 in 9 these days) can shoot a much heavier bullet than your typical factory 22-250. More than makes up for that velocity edge that the -250 has at shorter ranges.
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True enough, a fast twist 223 with heavier bullets will have an advantage in retained energy as compared to a slow twist lighter bullet 22-250 at distance. The savage 22-250 model 12 VLP and LRPV also comes in 9 twist.
 
I have three dedicated 'Yote rigs & they all meet your budget requirements.

Savage Predator 10 .243Win (1:9.25), Savage FCP-K .223Rem (1:9) & a Tikka T3 LSS .204Ruger (1:12)

The Savages are workhorses & can take the typical abuse of multiple stands in a day. The Tikka is buttery smooth and is a blast to shoot with it's minimal recoil & low report. You'd be well served with any of the three calibers in reality. However the .204R really shines through reloading 35gr or 39gr pills.
 
Weatherby vanguard guaranteed sub moa
Thompson centre venture or icon also guaranteed
Remington 700 not guaranteed but should still be a shooter
 
tc icon precision hunter: 223 for fur sales........... 22 250 for extermination




weatherby vanguard youth 223 for walk around gun,,,,,, 20 inch barrel , swings nice, lighter, and a drop box mag of 5 or 10 is available...... also available in 22 250

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Between the two calibers you listed, it depends if you buy factory or are a reloader. Factory 223 is cheaper than 22-250, but if you already load the 22-250 is the better round.

Bolt action is the way to go, but watch the barrel twist rates. I have one 22-250 in a 1 in 12 twist that will not stabilize any projectile larger than 40 grain. So if you want to lob the larger wind bucking pills get a gun with a tighter twist.

If you are calling, not spending a afternoon at a p dog town, most sporter weight barrels are fine. The heavier barrel will kill them really dead, the sporter still dead. Dead is dead.

Might want to consider another round or two, definitely 243 and maybe a 25. My reasoning is if you call at the same time Deer season is open. Target of opportunity, but the 25 has few true varmit projectiles for reloaders. I use a heavy barreled 25-06, and use a stout projectile, trying to not hit major bones on predators. One projectile/load for both purposes. A good penetrator for deer, and no grapefruit sized exit wound. Small hole in small hole out. Less sewing.
I am not a big fan of Savage. The problem here is if you insist on a detachable mag. Many more with floorplates than mags. Since you are a member, hopefully use the equipment exchange, keep a eye out there. Round count in predator calibers is far less a issue than in a large magnums like the Rum's. ( maybe excluding the 220 Swift and 223 WSSM ) I have never had a problem with a used firearm, especially if you can examine it first for condition and send a light down the tunnel.

Bryan
 
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Rem 700 SPS varmint in .223 - accuracy out the box - bullet options are endless and really inexpensive for even the premium factory loads - ammo found everywhere even in the smallest of towns - (plus the mill surp option for fun)

Can't beat it really.....
 
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Buy a Eberlestock Gunrunner for your gun and gear and it won't matter how heavy or light you go on your choice of rifle. My FCPK rigged out is around 14 lbs. Plus I carry hand calls, foxpro, decoy, rangefinder, binos, hydration bladder, etc. One farm I hunt allows no vehicles of any kind so its hump it in and then from set up to set up and it's manageable with everything in the pack and your hands free.

If most of your likely shots are likely under 100 yds and with your bolt action requirement, you won't really need a heavy barrel, but it is nice to have for that longer shot.
 
The theory about the necessity of using a heavy barrel is that it helps the bullet arrive on target before the animal can 'jump the string' similar to what can occur while bowhunting. This is the result of the heavy barrel not vibrating as much as a sporter weight barrel and is therefore quieter.

Tb
 
tinbird said:
The theory about the necessity of using a heavy barrel is that it helps the bullet arrive on target before the animal can 'jump the string' similar to what can occur while bowhunting. This is the result of the heavy barrel not vibrating as much as a sporter weight barrel and is therefore quieter.

Tb
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Ummmm....No. Projectile velocity > velocity of sound = animal has been shot well before it ever hears the sound. Barrel thickness affects rigidity which affects vibration, but this has nothing to do with its volume.
 
Hoytcannon: what is a "miracle max" and what exactly do you mean by that. What i mean by what you quoted from my text is that i have found Heavy barreled rifles which are typically found on target rigs, slightly more accurate, sporters are still accurate. At Coyote calling distances it doesnt matter...also as i pointed out one does not heat up a barrel as in P dog hunting to get any benefit from a heavy barrel.

i don't understand quoting text without adding to the thread or addressing the OP's question.

Bryan
 
Miracle Max is a character from the greatest date movie ever made "The Princess Bride".
Someone said "really dead and the sporter dead".
Miracle Max is famous for saying things like "mostly dead"
 
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