Looking for opinions on my Moose rifle choice..

100 yards? I'd chose the m14, unless the axis has irons. For that distance I hate scopes, they are bulky, add weight, can brake and fog when it rains not to mention the god damn eye relief! Your panoramic vision is better with iron which improve your general situational awareness when aiming. With the proper stock your m14 will be of similar weight to the scoped axis and will have much less recoil.

Buying bargain basement optics is an even worse idea than buying bargain basement rifles, an economy priced rifle can usually perform well enough to do the job, whereas you point out, a junk scope can't. A good hunting scope has sufficient magnification to see the target, generous eye relief, a wide field of view at low power, and is all but impervious to inclimate weather. There is one circumstance though where even a good quality conventional scope might let you down; in cold conditions, if you exhale without turning away from the scope, the ocular lens will surely to turn to ice.

The advantage a scope has over irons is not magnification, if it were we'd all be hunting with 20X glass, the primary advantage is focus. The human eye is unable to focus on two objects at different distances simultaneously. Once the target is acquired, when aiming with irons, your focus must be on the rear sight (unless its a receiver mounted aperture, in which case you look through it not at it) then your focus must shift to the front sight, shift again to the target, then back to the front sight, all before you break the shot. A scope simplifies aiming because aiming point and target are on the same focal plane, in simultaneous focus, so the chances of a first round hit are better, and a shot can be fired faster, before conditions change. Additionally, in low light conditions, given a target that blends into the background, a good scope's light gathering qualities enables a shot that would be impossible with irons, since with irons you'd never see the target.
 
Why buy a cheap axis when you can buy a husqvarna in 30-06 for 400$ at tradex site
Run open sight when you the cash go buy a good leupold scope and never look back
 
Lots of good used ,high quality rifles in 30-06 around for the price of a new axis.

I started keeping track of my moose kills in '92 and the average shot is 150 yds, shortest 50'...longest 425yds.

Had lots of different scopes over the years but find the 6x42 Leupold ideal. Very generous eye box for those close shots and enough power for long shots, just yesterday out slamming the 16x16" gong at 1040 yds with my 30-06, M1 turret makes it good at distance.
 
Buying bargain basement optics is an even worse idea than buying bargain basement rifles, an economy priced rifle can usually perform well enough to do the job, whereas you point out, a junk scope can't. A good hunting scope has sufficient magnification to see the target, generous eye relief, a wide field of view at low power, and is all but impervious to inclimate weather. There is one circumstance though where even a good quality conventional scope might let you down; in cold conditions, if you exhale without turning away from the scope, the ocular lens will surely to turn to ice.

The advantage a scope has over irons is not magnification, if it were we'd all be hunting with 20X glass, the primary advantage is focus. The human eye is unable to focus on two objects at different distances simultaneously. Once the target is acquired, when aiming with irons, your focus must be on the rear sight (unless its a receiver mounted aperture, in which case you look through it not at it) then your focus must shift to the front sight, shift again to the target, then back to the front sight, all before you break the shot. A scope simplifies aiming because aiming point and target are on the same focal plane, in simultaneous focus, so the chances of a first round hit are better, and a shot can be fired faster, before conditions change. Additionally, in low light conditions, given a target that blends into the background, a good scope's light gathering qualities enables a shot that would be impossible with irons, since with irons you'd never see the target.

I know my opinion is contrary to the general consent. It's my opinion and everybody has one, just like...

I agree with you about focus on V-notch rear sight but like scopes there are good and bad irons. For a range of 100m (over this, yes, I would consider a scope for the magnification.) I would choose irons. For the sake of conversation take the m14 aside and think about a marlin 336 instead. I bought a skinner peep sight for it and it's awesome. Vs a scope It is much better to carry around, less bulky, lighter and they are impervious to elements. All I need is to focus on the front sight and I hit my target every time offhand at 100 meters. I don't see what I would gain with a scope over the peep sights. Plus the iron are much cheaper. I also find I have a better panoramic vision with the irons because the scope cover more view than the small iron.

The scoped axis vs the M14 is apples vs oranges (obviously) I'm not sure how heavy the axis is with the scope, but if is is the same weight, I'd pick the m14 over it. If the axis have peeps sight I'd take the axis over the m14.
 
I know my opinion is contrary to the general consent. It's my opinion and everybody has one, just like...

I agree with you about focus on V-notch rear sight but like scopes there are good and bad irons. For a range of 100m (over this, yes, I would consider a scope for the magnification.) I would choose irons. For the sake of conversation take the m14 aside and think about a marlin 336 instead. I bought a skinner peep sight for it and it's awesome. Vs a scope It is much better to carry around, less bulky, lighter and they are impervious to elements. All I need is to focus on the front sight and I hit my target every time offhand at 100 meters. I don't see what I would gain with a scope over the peep sights. Plus the iron are much cheaper. I also find I have a better panoramic vision with the irons because the scope cover more view than the small iron.

The scoped axis vs the M14 is apples vs oranges (obviously) I'm not sure how heavy the axis is with the scope, but if is is the same weight, I'd pick the m14 over it. If the axis have peeps sight I'd take the axis over the m14.

It's obvious you literally "don't see" the advantages. That can only be from using bad scopes, or from not using them enough to understand what some have tried to tell you - that a scope on low power is the very best sight you can use in close situations. You DO know you need to keep both eyes open don't you? If you did, you would know that it makes the "panoramic vision" objection just look inexperienced.

You really should give a light, smaller objective lens, good quality scope set on the correct power and mounted at the right height for your combination of rifle/stock/your face and see what you "see".
 
06... I know you didn't mention that you were considering a different scope, but if you are.... I've had great luck with an older Bausch and Lomb elite 4000 in 2.5x10x40 with the rain gaurd coating. Nice low power for in the thick stuff, and a decent higher end if you've got to stretch things out a bit. After columbine I think that these were replaced with the bushnell 4200 series, they pop up on the EE reasonably often.
 
I know my opinion is contrary to the general consent. It's my opinion and everybody has one, just like...

I agree with you about focus on V-notch rear sight but like scopes there are good and bad irons. For a range of 100m (over this, yes, I would consider a scope for the magnification.) I would choose irons. For the sake of conversation take the m14 aside and think about a marlin 336 instead. I bought a skinner peep sight for it and it's awesome. Vs a scope It is much better to carry around, less bulky, lighter and they are impervious to elements. All I need is to focus on the front sight and I hit my target every time offhand at 100 meters. I don't see what I would gain with a scope over the peep sights. Plus the iron are much cheaper. I also find I have a better panoramic vision with the irons because the scope cover more view than the small iron.

The scoped axis vs the M14 is apples vs oranges (obviously) I'm not sure how heavy the axis is with the scope, but if is is the same weight, I'd pick the m14 over it. If the axis have peeps sight I'd take the axis over the m14.

One element you haven't considered when you make the claim that you can hit your target every time with an iron sighted rifle at 100 yards, is the tricks that light can play on you with respect to the front sight. Bright sunlight can make a post appear shorter, causing you to shoot high, and/or it can make the front post appear narrower, thereby causing you to make a windage error in your sighting. Given either condition, you can do everything right, and still miss. No insult intended, but if you never miss with an iron sighted rifle, you don't shoot much.
 
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