Looking for opinions on the jericho 941

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I am not looking to buy the best production gun for IPSC I can because I am new and not at the level a top dollar gun will help. But I also don't want to put myself at a disadvantage by getting one I have to compensate for.

The consensus seems to be for the money the CZ shadow is the way to go as a no compromises IPSC gun. I haven't found one locally (New Brunswick) to see if it fits me properly. I don't want to order one until I verify it fits me. The other problem is I don't like the look of the gun all that much. I really like silver,chrome look but as far as i can tell the CZ shadow is sold in any color as long as it is black.

I did find a Jericho 941 locally and it seems to fit me. The safety is on the slide and i don't know if this will be a problem with IPSC. The gun has to be newbey friendly. I see i can get a holster from freedom ventures and assume I could get extra mags from them also.

What are the opinions on this pistol for IPSC? I am willing to bet it isn't very common but is that because it is a rare gun in Canada or just not well suited for a beginner in IPSC?
 
Buying a gun for IPSC you should consider how easy is to get the spare parts: springs, slide stop, sights, grips, barrels, etc.
 
It is basically a CZ-75 Clone, with some different parts.

I would go with a CZ-75 or 85 personally, easier to gets parts being the number one issue. Shooting sports tend to be hard on firearms, and parts availability is an important consideration.

Another pistol you might want to consider is an STI GP6. Freedom Ventures is the importer, and Sean is very close to your part on the Country! They are comparable in price though as a Shadow.......there are no style points in IPSC BTW, in case you were worried about the bling guns!
 
It is basically a CZ-75 Clone, with some different parts.

I would go with a CZ-75 or 85 personally, easier to gets parts being the number one issue. Shooting sports tend to be hard on firearms, and parts availability is an important consideration.

Another pistol you might want to consider is an STI GP6. Freedom Ventures is the importer, and Sean is very close to your part on the Country! They are comparable in price though as a Shadow.......there are no style points in IPSC BTW, in case you were worried about the bling guns!

Getting Parts do seem to be the problem with the gun from my research. There may not be stile points in IPSC but I am a sucker for a cool looking gun.
 
Accessories

Another point to consider is the availability of gear for your your gun. Some handguns are easier to find holsters for etc.
 
Hey,

I've been shooting the baby eagle for few years ago, at least two of the provincial titles were won with it :) I never had any problems getting spare parts, or work done on it (but that might be the magic of DARK, I donno :) ).

Having a gun that fits your hand, and "feels right" when shooting is extremely important. I've always liked the CZ-75 style of guns, having shot them for years. I find the baby eagle (jericho) recoils a little better for me, so that's what I've been using (I'm talking about the 9mm)

You can get nice sights for it, you can use nice Tanfoglio mags for it, you can get nice holsters for it, there's nothing wrong with that gun. Yes, it IS somewhat less well-known and popular than a CZ, but so what? If it works for you, and fits your hand, and feels right, it's accurate enough, reliable enough, and affordable enough. Go for it, and feel free to PM me with any specific questions you might have...

NOTE:: I have a slide mounted decocker; if the one you're looking at has a safety, well, it's not an issue, as we don't use safeties in production, but you'd need to decock the gun manually, using your fingers to lower the hammer down before holstering it, at the start of each stage. Not a problem, just something to keep in mind. If that's a decocker it has, not an issue, it'll lower the hammer down for you.
 
Hey,

I've been shooting the baby eagle for few years ago, at least two of the provincial titles were won with it :) I never had any problems getting spare parts, or work done on it (but that might be the magic of DARK, I donno :) ).

Having a gun that fits your hand, and "feels right" when shooting is extremely important. I've always liked the CZ-75 style of guns, having shot them for years. I find the baby eagle (jericho) recoils a little better for me, so that's what I've been using (I'm talking about the 9mm)

You can get nice sights for it, you can use nice Tanfoglio mags for it, you can get nice holsters for it, there's nothing wrong with that gun. Yes, it IS somewhat less well-known and popular than a CZ, but so what? If it works for you, and fits your hand, and feels right, it's accurate enough, reliable enough, and affordable enough. Go for it, and feel free to PM me with any specific questions you might have...

NOTE:: I have a slide mounted decocker; if the one you're looking at has a safety, well, it's not an issue, as we don't use safeties in production, but you'd need to decock the gun manually, using your fingers to lower the hammer down before holstering it, at the start of each stage. Not a problem, just something to keep in mind. If that's a decocker it has, not an issue, it'll lower the hammer down for you.

Thanks for the advice it is good to get info from someone who has used one. The one I am looking at has the safety on the slide. Now I may be remembering wrong but I thought it was also a de-cocker. I don’t know the ipsc rules yet but will this type of safety put me at a disadvantage with my time? I know a top lvl shooter won’t be affected but what about someone just starting out?
 
Thanks for the advice it is good to get info from someone who has used one. The one I am looking at has the safety on the slide. Now I may be remembering wrong but I thought it was also a de-cocker. I don’t know the ipsc rules yet but will this type of safety put me at a disadvantage with my time? I know a top lvl shooter won’t be affected but what about someone just starting out?

You're probably considering production class, and in that case there is a rule which only permits DA/SA and DAO/striker-based pistols. In the case of the Jericho, that means that your first shot must be double-action, which subsequent shots permitted as single-action. When you initially load the first round into the chamber, the hammer must be (safely) lowered afterward to ensure the pistol fires in DA for the first shot. I bring this up because you may be more comfortable with a gun that has a decocker, rather than manually lowering the hammer with your fingers.

-- L.
 
I have been shooting a baby eagle for the last 2 years. I shoot 40 minor and had to swap out the sights because my minor load didn't hit POA. I'm using a dropped offset holster.
The parts question is a little tricky when you play in production. Stric rule is all parts must be original factory with exception of sights, grips and mags. Question is who is factory for these guns? IMI, Tanfoglio, Charles Daly????? With the amount of monkeying a lot of guys do to their guns outside the rules I dought someone will fault you for replacing the firing pin with a Tanfoglio one for example.

I love mine. Working on moving up a class or two. I am certain the baby eagle does not disadvantage me at all.
 
hey

I don't know if there are models with only the safety on the slide; looking around on the web, I'd GUESS (!!) that you either have a "true" safety on the frame, or the decocker on the slide which also acts as safety when the gun is decocked. In the latter case, you cannot carry cocked and locked, only decocked and locked; in the former case, you can carry cocked and locked. Again, just my interpretation of what I've seen on the web.

So, if that's correct, if your safety lever is on the slide, then it is a decocker, which can also be used to put the decocked gun on safety...

For ipsc competition, it's fine; it's perfect - you move the decocker down, to lower the hammer, and then you move it back up, to release the safety, holster, and get ready. If you leave the decocker down, hehe, you'll get a surprise (it disconnects the trigger from the firing mechanism, so the trigger will just flop back and forth).

This is what the safety model looks like: http://world.guns.ru/handguns/jericho03a.jpg

This is the decocker one: http://world.guns.ru/handguns/jericho03b.jpg (this is what I have)

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