Looking for used o/u or s/s

It is always good advice to shoulder (or try if that is an option) some different guns and see what fits you the best. You will often find that one of either Browning or Beretta fits you best, but not both. Focus on fit before locking in on a specific brand or action type. Good luck with your search.
 
Back to o/u vs. sxs, sometimes I wonder if the clay sports required shooters not to pre-mount their guns, then would sxs's be more likely to be preferred? I actually shoot a light and lively gun with better scores if I shoot it "low gun". Re: fit, typically the Browning Citoris don't fit me well at all. I do have one and shoot it well but has adjustable comb offset to the right 1/4". With 32" bbls. its not something I'm going to carry hunting. I hunted with a Winchester 101 for quite a few years and it sort of fit but with a little face slap. My Browning BBS though with fixed stock shoots exactly where I look without any thought to where the bead is and no noticeable recoil. When you find one like that its magic.
 
Back to o/u vs. sxs, sometimes I wonder if the clay sports required shooters not to pre-mount their guns, then would sxs's be more likely to be preferred? I actually shoot a light and lively gun with better scores if I shoot it "low gun". Re: fit, typically the Browning Citoris don't fit me well at all. I do have one and shoot it well but has adjustable comb offset to the right 1/4". With 32" bbls. its not something I'm going to carry hunting. I hunted with a Winchester 101 for quite a few years and it sort of fit but with a little face slap. My Browning BBS though with fixed stock shoots exactly where I look without any thought to where the bead is and no noticeable recoil. When you find one like that its magic.

I got my first shotgun when I was 12. The day I got it, there was a fellow at the house who always had a case of clay birds in his trunk along with a case of old crow bourbon. So he got the case of birds and a hand thrower out of his trunk and was going to show me how to shoot at clay birds. I clearly remember him telling me that the gun must be in the down position and you bring it up when you say pull. That is how I learned to shoot and I still do it that way. And my first time shooting that many years ago I broke 22 of the birds and that was with a .410 pump. Wished I was able to do that now ,lol. Now I concentrate on the old crow instead!
 
Gunsaholic, the first time I stepped on a skeet field as a young man I had never shot any clay sports but had been a hunter of waterfowl, grouse, woodcock and snipe. I shot a better score with my 30" full choked 1100 that first round than some of the guys I shoot with today have ever done. The decline of my vision and reflexes now is only partly offset by experience.
 
Back to o/u vs. sxs, sometimes I wonder if the clay sports required shooters not to pre-mount their guns, then would sxs's be more likely to be preferred? I actually shoot a light and lively gun with better scores if I shoot it "low gun". Re: fit, typically the Browning Citoris don't fit me well at all. I do have one and shoot it well but has adjustable comb offset to the right 1/4". With 32" bbls. its not something I'm going to carry hunting. I hunted with a Winchester 101 for quite a few years and it sort of fit but with a little face slap. My Browning BBS though with fixed stock shoots exactly where I look without any thought to where the bead is and no noticeable recoil. When you find one like that its magic.

I've always shot a light gun better than a heavy one, at least at reflex shooting as opposed to pre meditated target shooting. I also learned to shoot "gun down" and I hated the day that the sporting clay's associations allowed pre mounting the gun, it takes away from what the sport was originally designed for, which was a game that emulated game shooting. I hate watching the "worlds best" shoot from a pre mounted gun hold!
 
I've always shot a light gun better than a heavy one, at least at reflex shooting as opposed to pre meditated target shooting. I also learned to shoot "gun down" and I hated the day that the sporting clay's associations allowed pre mounting the gun, it takes away from what the sport was originally designed for, which was a game that emulated game shooting. I hate watching the "worlds best" shoot from a pre mounted gun hold!

I'm with you on that one. I never pre mount when shooting sporting clays. I use sporting clays as a tune up for the upland bird season.

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I've always shot a light gun better than a heavy one, at least at reflex shooting as opposed to pre meditated target shooting. I also learned to shoot "gun down" and I hated the day that the sporting clay's associations allowed pre mounting the gun, it takes away from what the sport was originally designed for, which was a game that emulated game shooting. I hate watching the "worlds best" shoot from a pre mounted gun hold!

I prefered the good old low gun days myself. It was just too hard to enforce. But the current “worlds best” all compete and win in FITASC, and it is real low gun. They are just taking advantage of the English Sporting rules like everyone else and they allow gun up.
 
I don't shoot a lot of clays....just have a very small club nearby that only offers trap or skeet basically once a week and I go between 0 and 10 times a year depending on what's going on in my life. I'm usually going to try out a new gun. Clearly I'm not a dedicated skeet guy. Same 5-7 guys show for skeet whenever I go. For the last 7-8 years. And they are a good bunch of guys but they are really into the skeet thing. All shoot with gun up, most with serious o/u skeet guns, a couple with semis. So I show up with one or two of my vintage SxS and it throws them all. While they are polite, they think I'm nuts. (They may have a point). And they still offer encouragement to me by way of suggesting, just about every time I go, that I should pre-mount. I accept their advice with good manners and go on shooting gun down. It confirms to them I'm nuts. LOL
 
Every time I try shooting gun up, usually at the “advice” of someone “better”, I end up rifle shooting clays and it buggars me for the next few rounds I shoot. If left to instinct and repetition I usually shoot decently. Part of my problem is I’m cross dominant but can’t seem to handle a left handed gun. Something about the pre mounted gun greatly exaggerates the problem.
 
If you want to really get to the Hi End shoots , who ever they are, Take a 12 in dominion pump, one of my customers did one time, just for the hell of it.
He did good with it, but than he does good with any shot gun, I do crap, as I point like a rifle, and we all knows how that turns out.
What do you fellows think about the original Ruger red Labels 12 ga, choke tubes ?
I know the new ones where not good.
BTW, I can't see the gun up, who would hunt like that?
 
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