Looking to get into progressive

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So I have a very simple set up, basically just the lee classic anniversary set up. I've done pretty well, got my .30-06 down to 1/2" at 100 yards and saving money.

But what I really like doing is plinking around with my tavor and .40 handgun. I would like to just build lots of the cheapest rounds possible with the cheapest set up possible.

So what do I all need and where do I get it? I know almost nothing about progressive setups. Any tips/links or whatever appreciated. Thanks.
 
If you think your interests, especially in handguns, will increase, then go for a basic Dillon 650, lots of add ons to be had later and you have a lifetime guarantee that can't be beat. Plus with a case feeder 600 round/hour capability.I've made tens of thousands of rounds with hardly a hiccup!
 
If you want to shoot the cheapest go 22. Only play the pistol reloading game if you want to develop loads that work well and provide value for your money.
Spend a bit of money and get equipment that will produce reliable accurate ammo for as long as you own it.

Cheap equipment + cheap components (low quality) = junk ammo
 
I went the cheap route with a lee pro 1000, made a few thousand rounds with it and thought it was doing pretty well. I upgraded it to a Dillon 650 this year and wow, there is no comparison. The Dillon makes a far superior, way more consistent round and other than operator error, has never failed.
 
Plenty of good advice, so far. Another excellent, versatile Dillon press, is the RL550-B. Worth checking out, too.
 
I have both Dillon and Hornady LNL AP, and I am very impressed with the Hornady ! The Dillon is a good machine, but put them side by side and you will see the difference !
 
If you want to shoot the cheapest go 22. Only play the pistol reloading game if you want to develop loads that work well and provide value for your money.
Spend a bit of money and get equipment that will produce reliable accurate ammo for as long as you own it.

Cheap equipment + cheap components (low quality) = junk ammo

I couldn't disagree more. I loaded thousands of .38 special and 9mm rounds on a Lee Turret press with the cheapest components I could find, and this allowed me to shoot often enough that I am a better shot than I would have been otherwise. Straight wall handgun cartridges are the easiest to load for, and it is possible to get costs down to levels close to the .22LR, though you will probably have to cast to do so. Pistol cartridges are by far the best candidate for reloading to save money at current prices.

My progressive is a Hornady, and I've never been fully happy with it. It exhibits several quality issues. I've never used a Dillon, but if I was going back in time that is the way I would go.
 
How about caliber change, I am currently reloading about 5 handgun calibers and only shoot about 2k in each caliber/year. so not really sure if I can justify it
 
How about caliber change, I am currently reloading about 5 handgun calibers and only shoot about 2k in each caliber/year. so not really sure if I can justify it

Hornady LNL would be a good choice then for a progressive. You don't need case or bullet feeders and with the 500 bullet rebate the cost comes down more. You need dies and shell plates for each caliber. Buy Hornady dies and you get 100 free bullets. Shell plates are about $40.00 each. But sounds like you have dies already so they will work fine.

I looked at Dillion and Hornady made more sense for me as availability of their products is everywhere and the distribution center is in Okotoks. I found the Bill Morgan videos http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/thr...ints-and-tricks-complete-video-series.124483/ on how to set and tune the LNL and have had zero issues with it.

You will here about Dillion's awesome no bull#### warranty which is great but Hornady has the very same thing.
They all make good products and each have their loyal followers but Hornady made more economical sense for my situation.
Bass Pro was the cheapest at the time for the press and I was able to get two sets of dies for what the difference was for the next cheapest retailer.
Now if I wanted to start cranking out 1000's of rounds every week then the Dillion 1050 would be the logical choice but would also be 5 or 6 times more than what I have invested in the Hornady LNL.
 
I've had Lee, got a Dillon. The Lee presses are gone and the Dillon is staying. Lee if you like to tinker around, Dillon if you just want to makes lots of ammo without issues getting in the way.

I was considering a Lee Loadmaster. I went onto You Tube to see them in operation. What I found was a fairly high number of videos full of tricks and fixes on tweaking and tuning to make the Loadmaster work. The videos on Dillon equipment just showed folks using the gear to make ammo. What setting up there was to be seen was just the steps from the book being put into action. That was enough for me to confirm that Blue is a better choice.

Since then I've also gotten the feeling that the Hornady LNL AP is not a bad option either. Search You Tube for the press names you're interested in buying. Get yourself a feel for how they are used.

The Dillon I got is the 550B. But if I had to do it over again I think I'd prefer a 5 station die plate for the option of fitting a powder checking/lockout die. My 550B doesn't give me that option while still keeping the seating and crimping stations separate.
 
The Dillon 550 is a nice balance between cost, quick conversion, and throughput for most shooters. Starting with filled primer tubes, it is absolutely possible to produce 500+ rounds of pistol ammo in an hour. Bottleneck rifle rounds are, of course, slower because of the need to trim cases. That said, assembling the prepped cases into loaded ammo goes pretty fast.

The example given above of five different calibres at about 2k each would absolutely be a good match for the 550. Any other combination for a similar total round count would also be a good fit.

If you want to reload substantially more than that, or just plain want to spend less time reloading, the 650 with case feeder is the best choice. The trade-offs for greater capacity are cost, complexity, and a larger footprint (if space available is a concern).

I would not get a Lee progressive press. What you will save up front, you will end up paying for in aggravation from having to fiddle with it to make it work. Component costs are the long run greatest expense relative to the fixed cost of equipment, so there isn't really that much difference cost-wise between a cheap setup and a nice one in the scheme of things. The Lee turret press might be OK, but is much slower than a progressive.

The absolute cheapest components you can find will be more than good enough for your purposes. For 223, with Cam-Pro or Hornady 55 grain FMJ bullets and WC 735 powder from Higginsons is the way to go. You will likely not be able to find .40 bullets cheaper than from Cam-Pro and they will shoot better than probably 99% of shooters can hold with a pistol. In 9mm, I found no real difference in accuracy between Hornady XTP JHPs and plated Cam-Pros. Fancy bullets are not gong to cut down your failure drill times. Unless chasing tiny groups from the bench is an end in itself, economizing on components means more trigger time to build your fundamentals. Sometimes, quantity has a quality all its own.
 
On my 550b I don't bother filling the primer tubes ahead of time. Instead it makes for a nice break after pulling the lever a hundred times. I'm also not set up with either a bullet feeder or case feeder. All done by hand from pans and trays sitting readily to hand. Even so with the need to set the cases and bullets and stop to fill the primer tubes and replenish the tray of bullets I can still rattle off around 300 to 350 per hour at a nice moderate pace. When I'm in the "zone" I've managed to creep to over 400 in an hour even with the same pauses to fill tubes and trays.
 
A Dillon 550 or 650 is the way to go. I purchased a 550 12 years ago to accommodate loading in volume for pistol, low volumes for rifle, and the cost of conversions for the broad range of calibers I had in mind. I had less money then so the cost of conversion was a factor. I also have a 650 brand new in the box I bought second hand for 9mm that I haven't set up yet.

On the 550 with the purchase of a 303 and a 45 acp conversion kit and sharing the parts, I could load 45 acp 308 rifle and 303. With the purchase of a 44 mag powder funnel and using the 303 parts I can now load 44 mag.

The US dollar is high right now so the cost of a Dillon will be higher, but in my experience if you sell off the Dillon in 5 to 10 years you will get most if not all of you money back.
 
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