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Hi all, I'm a CGN newb and fairly new to shooting. I've been shooting approx a year at an indoor rental/range and have decided on a G17. After a bad day of hitting low and left, I asked for help. I was told more finger, and "you have to grip a Glock more like a revolver". I get the more finger on the trigger, but not the grip like a revolver... Any ideas ?
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Low and left - you are normal right-handed guy.

Too bad you got a striker-firing pistol so you cannot dryfire much at home with a coin on top of the slide and aiming at savages on TV :D

You need to adjust your grip, make sure gun doesn't wobble when shooting and you don't jerk it before, during and after the shot. Grip shouldn't be extremely tight either.

If possible, ask experienced shooters at the range to watch you shoot and tell you your mistakes, go from there.
 
How are your groups? If you have 2" groups at 10 yards that are low and left you may need a sight adjustment. Have an experienced shooter fire your gun to determine if it is the gun sights or you. If you shots are looking more like a shot gun on the paper the keys are sights, grip, stance, breathing, and trigger pull. When I first started I made a cheat sheet from things that I had read and reviewed it before shooting. Please note you will have to change this to suite you but is a place to start. Also, flinching and anticipation of the shot can be a huge problem that you may not know you have. To cure these use dummy rounds loaded in with you live rounds at the range to see if you jerk the gun while pulling the trigger.

Stance – Ensure proper footing, keep hips and shoulders perpendicular to the target,

Grip – place gun in the right hand and sites should line up straight down the arm to the elbow. Place heel of left hand in the opening left by the right hand to completely enclose the pistol grip. Wrap left hand fingers around. Place thumb of left hand pointing straight down side of gun. Place thumb of right hand straight and resting on top of left hand. Do not use thumbs for pressure on the gun as this will through off the site line. The straight thumb on the right hand allows for a straight trigger pull. Leave your right hand relaxed and squeeze with your left hand over your right the left will do the aiming the right will pull the trigger.

Sights – the front site on your gun must be in focus. The target and the rear site can be out of focus. Keep both eyes open.

Trigger – use the pad of your trigger finger to pull the trigger. This is the portion under the finger nail. This will allow a straight pull. Do not stage the trigger in DA pull, this is not a real life situation.

Breathing - Do not hold your breath. Try to fire at a 75% exhale.
 
Shooting a semi-auto using a grip you would typically use for a revolver is a very bad thing.

Similarly, depending on how big your hands are, gripping a revolver like a semi-auto isn't such a good idea either.

Shooting a Glock is all about the lateral finger position on the trigger and the smoothness of your pull.

And what c3pppo said. ;)
 
thanks for all the advice. Travel, I can't blame the gun. I'm sure the problem is either anticipation and I jerk it, or I'm getting lazy with my grip and trigger finger. My first 20 or 30 shots are good then it goes low left. I think I'll try the cheat sheet. thanks again to all,
peace...
 
One thing you might want to try is only loading 5 rounds into your mag. I find that myself ( and others I observe ) seem to run out of steam after about 5 rounds. If you are really concentrating on trying to be precise it takes a lot of efort and shooting too many rounds seems to mean that you're throwing the last few away just because you want to get through the mag. Load 5, shoot slowly and carefully, then take a moment to rest before the next round. Works wonders in helping you concentrate and keeps fatigue to a minimum.

Keep shooting, it'll come.
 
thanks again to all. C3pppo, I like your idea and going to try it in a couple hours. It sounds like a good way to make the most out of a box or two. So off to the range, I got my cheat sheet, and 5 round mags.(sounds so wrong) lol.. Looking forward , thanks ...
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Hey guys, I went to the range again today and I'm still consistently shooting down and left. I'm realize I'm probably anticipating recoil. Should I adjust and aim a little higher and right? Or should I "train" myself (e.g. dry firing or getting a .22 pistol)?
 
Hey guys, I went to the range again today and I'm still consistently shooting down and left. I'm realize I'm probably anticipating recoil. Should I adjust and aim a little higher and right? Or should I "train" myself (e.g. dry firing or getting a .22 pistol)?
 
It's best if you guys can show a side view video - both in normal speed and in slow-mo. That way people can see if you are flinching. I do this all the time to help me analyze my fundamentals. Also if you don't have a friend that can help load a dummy round in the magazine here is ssomething you can try:


One more thing, are you guys squeezing the gun like a monkey?
 
jermyzy said:
Hey guys, I went to the range again today and I'm still consistently shooting down and left. I'm realize I'm probably anticipating recoil. Should I adjust and aim a little higher and right? Or should I "train" myself (e.g. dry firing or getting a .22 pistol)?
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Nice thread resurrection!
Jermyzy! NEVER compensate! Fix the problem!
Do what Protege suggests. Load dummy rounds between live ones and see if your sights move when you shoot. If so, you are flinching or jerking/ pushing the trigger. Dry fire is also an excellent help and so is a .22. Either way, I would get help asap as the flinch gets worse esp if you shoot bigger calibers! I see you are in the GVRD, PM me if you want to meet up and I'll watch you and see if I can give you some pointers.
 
^Yes, am I not supposed to? I'm putting extra effort and gripping harder with my left hand as well. I did take a handgun course with silvercore. Did decently on the course, trying to implement everything I learned form the course, but I find my aim is actually getting worse...

Still Alive, thanks for the offer. Which range do you shoot at?
 
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