Low Cost Starter 9mm
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If budget is a concern then perhaps look for a Norinco NZ85B. I've seen used ones for around $300 and It's a pretty good clone of the CZ85B. I picked up a slightly used one, spent an extra $25 on some Hogue grips and another $25 on a better mainsping and recoil spring and it's a fantastic shooter. Great trigger feel and very accurate. it's one of their best. I think Marstar still has new ones for $400. The NP-22 is a well rated Sig P226 clone as well. Or a Norinco 1911 in 9mm might be a good choice too.
Thanks all.. taking all of it under advisement 
Also it would take me a looong time to put 2k rounds through it. I only go to the range maybe 5-10 times a year if that.
As far as the doctor. He wasn't that young he was in his 50's. The others all had underlying conditions. The one that made the rounds in the news was all a lie. They did a post mortem on her and she tested negative. Other younger MMA star's sister mega drug user. Anyone that has a risky lifestyle, overweight etc is at risk. I'm not saying this isn't its a serious illness. I'm saying the reaction to it is more damaging than the virus to society as a whole. Theres 2 methods of containing it. A short period of time or a long painful process. Pull the bandaid or slowly rip it off.. which one you prefer?
Also it would take me a looong time to put 2k rounds through it. I only go to the range maybe 5-10 times a year if that. As far as the doctor. He wasn't that young he was in his 50's. The others all had underlying conditions. The one that made the rounds in the news was all a lie. They did a post mortem on her and she tested negative. Other younger MMA star's sister mega drug user. Anyone that has a risky lifestyle, overweight etc is at risk. I'm not saying this isn't its a serious illness. I'm saying the reaction to it is more damaging than the virus to society as a whole. Theres 2 methods of containing it. A short period of time or a long painful process. Pull the bandaid or slowly rip it off.. which one you prefer?
Dr Li Wenliang was 34 years old. Look it up.
Make all the excuses you want, but you are wrong. Period.
Want to know what would have been better than the current situation? Taking this #### seriously months ago like Taiwan and Korea did, rather than making excuses and looking for an easy out.
Our leaders ####ed up. Americas leaders ####ed up even worse. Things are going to get worse before they get better due to that.
Make all the excuses you want, but you are wrong. Period.
Want to know what would have been better than the current situation? Taking this #### seriously months ago like Taiwan and Korea did, rather than making excuses and looking for an easy out.
Our leaders ####ed up. Americas leaders ####ed up even worse. Things are going to get worse before they get better due to that.
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Thanks all.. taking all of it under advisement
As far as the doctor. He wasn't that young he was in his 50's. The others all had underlying conditions. The one that made the rounds in the news was all a lie. They did a post mortem on her and she tested negative. Other younger MMA star's sister mega drug user. Anyone that has a risky lifestyle, overweight etc is at risk. I'm not saying this isn't its a serious illness. I'm saying the reaction to it is more damaging than the virus to society as a whole. Theres 2 methods of containing it. A short period of time or a long painful process. Pull the bandaid or slowly rip it off.. which one you prefer?
When you start shooting a semi 9mm, you will be surprised how quickly you will go through ammo. My wife and I both have 9's and it's not unusual to blast through 500-1000 on one range trip. If you are set on 9mm....... start buying ammo now.
This is true. Handguns chew through ammo at a ridiculous rate if all you're used to is centrefire rifle.
It is my opinion that it is easiest to start off with a 22 rimfire pistol. Unless you have a lot of money to burn, 22 is still fun to shoot. The "bang" and recoil is less but that is about it. Old style pistols like the Ruger Mark II are a good starting point on a budget. The Glock 44 in 22 cal is a good option for modern equipment. And of course it depends what type of shooting you wish to pursue. Centerfire ammo is not cheap. The pistol is cheap to buy but the operating cost can become significant if you shoot a lot. Reloading helps with costs but expensive setup and there is a learning curve. A great hobby though but you need to do it because you like it, not necessarily to save money although it will be a less expensive eventually.
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Well most pistols are great shooters for the majority in our hobby.
I have had friends spend huge amounts on a high end pistol, mags, holster, sights, and then a busy life pushes this hobby to the back burner. You really need to practise the develop muscle memory and your style.
I am very fortunate to have an ex-army buddy that has coached me for years on stance, trigger control and my grip. A simple grip change will change your point of impact. So what did he start me on, a .22!!! Cheap to shoot, and shooting a carton did not tire me out and taught me something about sight pictures and everything else related to a pistol. Then I went to a sweet nickel/blue Colt Commander, wish I still had it, but it was too just too damn pretty and the offer I had on it I couldn't ignore. So now I am down to just two pistols. One Ruger .22 with a poly frame, and a inexpensive all metal SIG clone (NP34) that eats everything and shoots awesome with the SIG SRT trigger kit a friend installed.
Do I have nice pieces nope, I have shooters that I do not stress over, and that I use for introducing new shooters at the range to our sport. So go to a range (when the virus thing is over) and try out different pistols, as your hand size and grip angles will determine what is something you will enjoy shooting.
I have had friends spend huge amounts on a high end pistol, mags, holster, sights, and then a busy life pushes this hobby to the back burner. You really need to practise the develop muscle memory and your style.
I am very fortunate to have an ex-army buddy that has coached me for years on stance, trigger control and my grip. A simple grip change will change your point of impact. So what did he start me on, a .22!!! Cheap to shoot, and shooting a carton did not tire me out and taught me something about sight pictures and everything else related to a pistol. Then I went to a sweet nickel/blue Colt Commander, wish I still had it, but it was too just too damn pretty and the offer I had on it I couldn't ignore. So now I am down to just two pistols. One Ruger .22 with a poly frame, and a inexpensive all metal SIG clone (NP34) that eats everything and shoots awesome with the SIG SRT trigger kit a friend installed.
Do I have nice pieces nope, I have shooters that I do not stress over, and that I use for introducing new shooters at the range to our sport. So go to a range (when the virus thing is over) and try out different pistols, as your hand size and grip angles will determine what is something you will enjoy shooting.
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Reloading doesn't even really help with 9mm costs due to the price of bulk ammo. There are exceptions, such as if you make your own bullets from lead you got for free and don't put a dollar value on your time spent reloading, or if you shoot 10s of thousands of rounds yearly then saving a penny or two per round adds up, but for the average person it's not worth it to reload 9mm (or 12ga target loads for that matter), as the cost savings are so small it'll take a long time just to break even on equipment costs.
I agree, but the holster that comes with it should be suitable for general range use.
The trigger on the TP9 elite is spec ed at 3.5 lbs , with a crisp break and reset.
The only upgrade, for me, would be the amount of pre travel, which there is an upgrade.
I haven’t priced mags yet but they can’t that overly expensive,
Anyway , I’ll soon find out,as I’m waiting on one from IRG.
The trigger reviews sealed the deal for me.
Gen 2 for sale
https://tillsonburggunshop.com/Smith-Wesson-M-P9-2.0-Range-Kit-9mm-Semi-Canada
Gen 1
http://www.bullseyelondon.com/new-smith-wesson-m-p-9mm-carry-and-range-kit-canada.html
Both are very reputable dealers.
https://tillsonburggunshop.com/Smith-Wesson-M-P9-2.0-Range-Kit-9mm-Semi-Canada
Gen 1
http://www.bullseyelondon.com/new-smith-wesson-m-p-9mm-carry-and-range-kit-canada.html
Both are very reputable dealers.
I have some M&Ps and some Caniks. Both would make excellent starter pistols that could last a lifetime without needing "upgrading".
My M&Ps have Apex tweaks. The Caniks have excellent triggers out of the box.
I shoot both and like them.
My M&Ps have Apex tweaks. The Caniks have excellent triggers out of the box.
I shoot both and like them.
Last time I check there was some great deal for fn509. If you like striker fire, glock, fn are both pretty good options. BTW, personally, I prefer to have one double action to practice pistol shooting, because practicing the first shot (double action) really helped with my trigger control
My apologies. I did get his age wrong. I was thinking of another case. He was also in big doo doo with the authorities as well. I've read so much from both sides of every argument over all of this. It is nasty it is worse than the regular flu, but I still think there will be a hell of a lot more irreparable damage to the entire world economy because of this that will lead to far more death and destruction once all this is done.
Anyway thats my opinion and you have yours and I respect that.
Thanks. The one is $100 more then the rest. I wonder what the difference is between v1 and v2.
To all of you mentioning doing a .22 first. I've been advised that quite a few times too by others. In fact I've shot a .22 handgun lots of times. Just not the same to me. I did learn pretty fast though about how terrible of a shot I am! Range instructor really helped me with it and I've been doing much better.
Someone else mentioned FN. I used to use the FNA1 in the reserves years ago. I know they are prohibited but I'd love to have one for nostalgia's sake. I did't know they made pistols too.
