LTATT question

MadDawgr

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So the local gun club is applying for the LTATT for me and he tells me this is good for any club in Canada. Does that mean I can have my stuff in the trunk of the car all the time? If I get pulled over and he asks I can say I'm going to a club.

I'm not saying I would do this, but I have family up north Ontario that I visit a couple times a year and wouldn't mind bringing one of my pistols to visit a club range up there. But I'm wondering if I get pulled over on Hwy 400 and they ask, I can just say I'm going to the range.
 
The short answer is no, you can't leave them in the car all the time. I also suspect it's good for any CFO approved range in Ontario, not Canada, and you must take a reasonably direct route. If you get caught on the 400 and you’re not going shooting you are breaking the law. If pressed I suspect you would need to know the name of the range and be able to have proof that you can shoot there. You would also have problems if it could be proved you were going to work, or somewhere that wasn’t a range.

If you are going away for the weekend, and have access to an approved range, you can bring your handguns.
 
Sallen is correct, but allow me to expand on his answer.

In my experience, the LTATT issued by the Ontario CFO says that you are allowed to transport restricted firearms from your place of residence to any range approved by the Ontario CFO, using the most reasonably direct route.

So its OK to stop at a restaurant for lunch or at a hotel overnight on your way to your relatives. If travelling to another club, its prudent to have some sort of documentation indicating you've been invited by a member, if not the executive of the club. If it is open to the public, have some sort of documentation (brochure, printout from their website, etc.) indicating they are open to the public.

By law, your LTATT is valid anywhere in Canada, but they get around that by imposing the condition that you are allowed to travel to any range approved by the Ontario CFO. If you are travelling to a range in another province, you are not travelling to a range approved by the Ontario CFO. You need to get YOUR CFO to issue a short-term ATT to travel to another province. If they weren't being manipulative, they would simply make LTATTs valid for transporting to any approved range. Or valid for transporting to any range approved by a CFO.

When you get it, read YOUR LTATT to see you restrictions and conditions. I discovered that my LTATT states that I am permitted to transport firearms registered to my address - that I can't borrow my buddy's pistol and take it to the range.

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pubb said:
if travelling to another club, its prudent to have some sort of documentation indicating you've been invited by a member, if not the executive of the club. If it is open to the public, have some sort of documentation (brochure, printout from their website, etc.) indicating they are open to the public.
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In my experience in ONT while waiting for my LTATT I wanted to go to Target as you can pay $20 and plink. The cfo said the club had to contact them and give me an invite, I told them that you don't even need a license to shoot @ Target it says so right on their website I can fax her the printout or give her the link. She said she wasn't gonna issue me anything unless the club executives emailed her. I am like you guys are more than aware of how every range operates, this isn't a ipsc or other league shooting event its just plinking and her final answer was she's not issuing it unless I had the club executives email her...what a bunch of BS. I'd ask Target to email her but for a club exec to email for earning $20 seemed lame so I didn't bother...just gonna wait for my ATT
 
Apply for it, get a refusal in writing and take it to court if you feel strongly about it. If I recall correctly, someone was going to try it. Don't know how it played out.

Personally, I like my clubs, but if I preferred to NOT associate myself with clubs, I would fight this in court. If I bought a "gift certificate" or prepaid for a number of day passes at public ranges, there's no way the CFO could deny I had a legitimate purpose to shoot at public ranges.

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If I had the financial resources to spend a thousand bucks or whatever it would cost me for legal rep I would, they love putting the heel of their boot on your face.

i am gonna call my MP and tell him how much bureaucratic BS the CFO throws around. Why gimme a rpal and approve my restrict?? Then jerk me around for trying to shoot it legitimately
 
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