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Heikop

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I have recently acquired a 1937 Luger 08 from my father (held in bond currently) who is an expat in Germany. My father was posted to CFB Lahr, Germany in the early 80s and retired there when the base closed. He purchased his Luger from the Road and Gun club on the base and had it registered under Canadian law. When the base closed he needed to register it with the German authorities. Rules in Germany have become quite strict for possession of handguns and he was forced to ship out of Canada or hand over to authorities. He chose to gift the Luger to me.
Is it possible somehow in this situation to own this Luger under the grandfather (inheritance ) clause for prohibited handguns of this vintage?
I realize I can put a new barrel on it, however I would rather have the original.
Thanks
 
So, just to be clear, is the gun legally in Canada at the moment? If not you may well run into the prohibition on importing prohibited class firearms.
 
I do not believe he does. The one he sent me was titled" Canadian Forces Europe Central Firearms Registration Certificate."
 
It was originally registered in Canada, way back in the 40s. Somehow it made its way back to the Road and Gun Club at CFB Lahr in the late 80s.
 
I think it is now a 12.6, registered to him. He can will it to you and you would receive it as a 12.7 AT HIS DEATH.

In the meantime, he can be the owner and have it stored in Canada while he is out of the country.

I am assuming that anyone with a 12.6 could agree to store it for him.
 
redbirddog said:
You can transfer 12.6 to 12.7 before death.

Sorry I still call the CFP thre CFC. My error.
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Yes, That was my understanding as well. The 12.6 holder doesn't need to have died.
From the RCMP website


Individuals do not need to be grandfathered to acquire a prohibited handgun if:

the handgun was made before 1946, and
the handgun is currently registered in Canada, and
they are the child, grandchild, brother, sister or spouse of the lawful owner.
Individuals who acquire a prohibited handgun in these circumstances will have 12(7) printed on their firearms licence. This means that they can lawfully possess a pre-1946 handgun passed on by a direct relative, but they are not authorized to acquire other prohibited handguns.

Any prohibited firearms that an individual acquires must have been registered in Canada on December 1, 1998. This means that even if a licence holder has grandfathered status, they cannot bring a prohibited firearm into Canada as a new import and they cannot acquire a prohibited firearm that has never been registered.

Not sure if you might not get hung up on the last part in bold type?
 
If he has a 12.6 now, maybe wait to transfer it from his name or he will lose the ability to acquire more in the future - you might find it useful :) Perhaps get a stripped 12.6 frame and register that into his name prior to transferring this Luger?

Otherwise, you are right, it can be transferred any time. Moreover a 12.7 holder can further transfer to another relative if they so wish extending the chain of 12.7 further.
 
Yes, the last part may cause problems. I am only hoping that an exception can be made given my fathers circumstance of having to register it in Germany because of the base closure, combined with the new laws in a Germany forcing him to give up possession. Probably going to loose the battle, and will have to convert to restricted. In that case, anyone interested in a Restricted Luger. I have already spent over 3 K getting 7 pistols shipped over ( the beurocracy was unbelievable).
 
If you have any particular wants in regards to pre 46 guns, you can have your father buy them and transfer them to you. He doesn't need to be dead, but if that's his only 12/6, once it's transferred to you, that door is closed.
 
Heikop said:
Yes, the last part may cause problems. I am only hoping that an exception can be made given my fathers circumstance of having to register it in Germany because of the base closure, combined with the new laws in a Germany forcing him to give up possession. Probably going to loose the battle, and will have to convert to restricted. In that case, anyone interested in a Restricted Luger. I have already spent over 3 K getting 7 pistols shipped over ( the beurocracy was unbelievable).
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You said the gun is in Canada post#5. So who cares if it was registered in Germany?
 
Heikop said:
Yes, the last part may cause problems. I am only hoping that an exception can be made given my fathers circumstance of having to register it in Germany because of the base closure, combined with the new laws in a Germany forcing him to give up possession. Probably going to loose the battle, and will have to convert to restricted. In that case, anyone interested in a Restricted Luger. I have already spent over 3 K getting 7 pistols shipped over ( the beurocracy was unbelievable).
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You said the gun was once registered in Canada right ?
I'm sure your father has kept some proof of that ? an old registration certificate maybe ?

You said the gun is in Canada now ! So is it registered or not ?
 
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McCoy said:
You said the gun was once registered in Canada right ?
I'm sure your father has kept some proof of that ? an old registration certificate maybe ?

You said the gun is in Canada now ! So is it registered or not ?
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I think he said it was "in bond" so it may not be technically considered to be "in Canada"

If i followed correctly it was in Canada once....went to Germany and he is now trying to bring it back. I'm certainly no expert but I think he may well run into the ban on importing prohibited class firearms.
 
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