Lung, shoulder or head?

tokguy said:
I recall something...oh yeah!
Remember this too?
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...s-legality?p=10959867&viewfull=1#post10959867

Quote Originally Posted by Brian46 View Post
"Not worth the risk of breaking the law and facing the consequences for doing the right thing IMO"

"Not attacking you personally, but I'm pretty sure you just explained the definition of what cowardice is." ( Not my reply...but I remembered it, lol. Best burn that I can recall )

I think that your ' Moral compass ' is perhaps missing it's Magnetic declination factor; a bit askew, maybe? Your suggestions are...well...thanks, but no thanks.
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Cowardice? Someone close to me was prosecuted for that exact same act. Cautioning someone is not cowardice. Cowardice is taking away a person's firearms for doing the right thing.

appears you have an axe to grind with me over how absurd the laws are? Your displeasure would be better served if voiced against those enforcing them to not pursue penalties
 
"Offswitch"???

That looks almost...not quite, but almost...like as bad an idea as the head shot. A couple of inches away from a crippling and painful injury that is in no way fatal or humane.

I want meat, but the animal only becomes meat when it's dead. My first priority is always a quick humane kill. A bang-flop on the spot is a bonus. The loss of a few pounds of meat is inconsequential.

I go for the heart-lung area...and preferably I go there through the shoulder on a quartering-to critter. To facilitate this I like cartridges that are more than merely adequate. If I recover a bullet...then I'm venturing too close to "adequate".
 
I hunted in Texas, where the deer are small with an outfitter. Since we could harvest 3 deer each on our hunt he told us to shoot the shoulder. Like he said, you will only lose 5 -10 pds instead of the complete deer
 
sookie_69 said:
So after reading many threads about which calibers ruin meat and having to throw away bloodshot meat I got to wondering.... How many people actually shoot animals in the shoulder? I've only ever lung/heart or head shot as to not damage meat and I've yet to have to track any animals be them deer, elk, moose or bear. So how many guys are ruining meat....I mean shoulder shooting and why?
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I have always shot moose etc. In neck... it breaks it and/or cuts the throat.. only a little stew meat wasted.. I rec it..
 
Depends on where you are hunting. When I hunted the plains of Southern Alberta & Saskatchewan, I always took the lung shot just back of the shoulder. Didn't matter if the animal made it a further 100 yds, they were easy to find. Went elk hunting in a party of 4 north & west of Hinton, Alta. Buddy got a shot at a big 6x6 on a cutline. I was 400 or more yards away & you could hear the WHOP of a solid hit. Asked him where he held & he said just behind the front legs. He was shooting a 7x57 loaded with 160 gr Nosler Partitions. the elk got into the black timber and we never did recover him. To make matters worse there was no snow & it was actually raining heavily at the time, making blood tracking impossible. 4 of us spent the remainder of that day and all of the next day searching in the dark timber to no avail.

I now live & hunt in Northern Saskatchewan. Often shot opportunities on a big old whitetail come in the last few minutes of legal hunting time, which is 1/2 hour after sunset. I now take only high shoulder shots, usually severing the spine, especially on bear which are a bugger to track. If an animal makes it 60 to 100 yds into the thick bush from a lung shot, and you only have 10 to 15 minutes of dim light to find it, you have just bought supper for a pack of wolves or coyotes. I don't mind losing 5 lbs of meat compared to losing the whole animal. I have hunted now for 53 years & have harvested a couple hundred big game animals. Wild meat is a major part of my diet. Have been using the high shoulder shot for the last 25 years, and haven't lost an animal. Most are DRT. and a few take one or two steps before cratering. I am a poor tracker because I don't get much practice at it & I prefer it that way!
 
i have posted earlier in this thread and made my opinion,i have always taken head/neck shots.

today i was hunting cow elk and after reading the general census on here i shot the cow
in the lungs @150yds with my 308.i thought i would take the safe option.
she stood there and looked at me,not even a wobble.
so i followed up with a base of the head/neck shot.
done deal,DRT
 
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Head shots are a poor choice on deer. You don't have to put that animal down to survive and shooting it in the boiler room is the least likely place to cripple it. Going for the heart and lungs shows respect for the game you hunt and in my opinion is done like this by most experienced hunters or passed down from an experienced hunter to a new hunter for many good reasons
 
Heart/lung is first preference, then shoulder if deer hunting. Grouse I always shoot for the head lol, I'm surgical with my 12g and birdshot. I rcently head shot a grouse straight on at about 20-25 feet, broke its neck and it was a bang flop moment. Quick and fast death like I want, not a pellet in the meat.
 
hoytcanon said:
My oposition to a head shot has nothing to do with the meat, it has to do with the high percentage of wounding loss... even when the hunter was "dead sure" of the shot, it takes so very little for things to go badly; the angle of the skull, poor shot placement, adrenaline, peeking/yanking, an unseen branch etc... etc... most of those poor shots would have been irrelevant to the outcome if the target had been "center lungs." Most of the bad outcomes were at the hands of the better shooters... the ones "over"confident in their ability.
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I believe this paragraph should be required reading for every hunter education program, expanded also to discourage neck shot attempts.
 
Hank44 said:
You cant "bleed out" a dead animal, the heart needs to be pumping, once it stops all you have is gravity to drain the animal. Unless hung your only draining a very small amount, the reason you see no blood is a lack of heart beat, not time. When field dressing your severing the heart, arteries, lungs and all associated vasuclature, that is more than enough to bleed out. Proper fields dressing and prompt cooling / hanging of the meat go a long way towards reducing spoilage. Unless your slaughtering live animals there truly is no reason for it. Or head shots for that matter, unless your a gopher.
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Right that why we shoot need in the brain. Roll them out in the floor throw a chain in the back leg then host them up in the air. Then open the throat from chin to brisket then cut the arteries above the heart . Thu bleed out just fine after the heart has stopped
 
What is with this obsession to "bleed out" a game animal? I have never had a meat-cutter or butcher suggest that this procedure is necessary; I have never done it in 45+ years of hunting, and never felt the need. I have hunted with guys who insist on doing this, and I have never seen or tasted any benefit from bleeding.

Head shots are so easy to mess up, resulting in protracted and inhumane suffering on the part of the animal, that I simply won't consider them. Why risk this? Oh, that's right, I forgot: the head-shooting experts are such perfect marksman that a slip-up is impossible. :rolleyes:
 
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