Various combos have worked well for me with that slug. I use Blue Dot or SR 4756 for thumper loads and Unique for milder loads. The Blue dot and 4756 loads have been both full charge and 5 percent reduced safely, and maintained good fold crimps. All my testing has been with Fiocchi Win AA, or Federal paper basewad trap hulls so far, with either WAA12R or WAAF114 wads. The reduced loads do very well in the accuracy department. Hit me with a PM if you want manual pages sent.
Lyman 525 slug reduced recoil load ?
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Thanks for your reply.
Don't have blue dot or unique so I think I will start with the sr 4756 load (see post #8, last pic, fourth from the bottom) and reduce the 26.5 grains to 25 grains,
that is about 5% and see how that goes.
I've got the components and press (a couple presses actually) so no need to go the easy way lol.
I have a feeling that it will be a bit more accurate load than cutting off the tops of trap loads and hammer in a slug but I think I will do a couple of those and compare them to the home rolled ones.
What manuals are you referring to? I have the lyman shotshell reloading volume 2 and reloading for shotgunners the 2nd edition
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I did not suggest cutting off the top of a trap load. I suggesting cutting vertically, cutting out the pie crimp. This is an important step. It holds the was column in place.
Made a few out of winchester 1 1/8 target loads.
Still going to make some "real" reloads with the sr4756 and federal wads but here some pics of the process of converting the target shells.
All went pretty easy. To get the slug to the top of the shot cup I had to put in some fiber discs under the slug.
Also put hotglue in the slug skirt so it is less likely the wad gets lodged onto the slug.
The finished rounds did not pass the plunk test initially. Ran them through the final station of my Mec press and then all was good.
The cutter is a cheap 7/16 socket (perfect fit!) I had laying around and gave a dremel treatment
Still going to make some "real" reloads with the sr4756 and federal wads but here some pics of the process of converting the target shells.
All went pretty easy. To get the slug to the top of the shot cup I had to put in some fiber discs under the slug.
Also put hotglue in the slug skirt so it is less likely the wad gets lodged onto the slug.
The finished rounds did not pass the plunk test initially. Ran them through the final station of my Mec press and then all was good.
The cutter is a cheap 7/16 socket (perfect fit!) I had laying around and gave a dremel treatment
Let us know how the BASE FILLED slugs work out. It would be nice if you could do a comparison between filled vs non-filled.
Years ago I tried filling the base with hot glue & I felt there was a SMALL increase in accuracy. I then tried with just using WAX and again it seemed as if there was a slight accuracy improvement. Last week I tried just a small comparison (3 shot groups @50 yds) and they both gave the same 2” groups from a bench, not really enough to do a fair job. We were doing some casual shooting 2 weeks ago and I noticed that the wax filled base slugs were giving vertical groups. Still well inside a deers vitals at 35 yards BUT all groups were totally vertical. You could almost hold a string from top to bottom. Me or the load ????
Years ago I tried filling the base with hot glue & I felt there was a SMALL increase in accuracy. I then tried with just using WAX and again it seemed as if there was a slight accuracy improvement. Last week I tried just a small comparison (3 shot groups @50 yds) and they both gave the same 2” groups from a bench, not really enough to do a fair job. We were doing some casual shooting 2 weeks ago and I noticed that the wax filled base slugs were giving vertical groups. Still well inside a deers vitals at 35 yards BUT all groups were totally vertical. You could almost hold a string from top to bottom. Me or the load ????
Saw a YouTube vid where a fella was using an elastomeric compound to fill the base, both from a dental supplier and some in a standard caulking gun. Also he was trying another thing with these- flipping them and loading backward,elastomeric compound to act as an expansion initiator, some with #8 shot added with the compound. Short range use, I'd guess. Thought about trying it with a ball bearing with the compound to initiate expansion. Random youtubing....... Reduce 5% to compensate for increased projectile weight. Never saw the results of the testing, but it's the same principle as loading hollow based wadcutters backward like it's still the 70s. Dunno. Interesting. Likely not so stable longer range.
Made a few out of winchester 1 1/8 target loads.
Still going to make some "real" reloads with the sr4756 and federal wads but here some pics of the process of converting the target shells.
All went pretty easy. To get the slug to the top of the shot cup I had to put in some fiber discs under the slug.
Also put hotglue in the slug skirt so it is less likely the wad gets lodged onto the slug.
The finished rounds did not pass the plunk test initially. Ran them through the final station of my Mec press and then all was good.
The cutter is a cheap 7/16 socket (perfect fit!) I had laying around and gave a dremel treatment
How were the results?
