Lyman Great Plaines vs Lyman Trade

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On the surface, of the catalog page that is, it appears the only difference between the two rifles (percussion) is the length of the barrel.

Is there any other difference?
How hard is it to clean out this particular model of ML?

I know some of the inline models unplug at the breach but I'm not really interested in an inline.

Also does this Lyman accept the pellet form black powder?
About bullets, only ball or can all the other stuff, conicals, sabots etc be used?

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Difference in twist, like hawk223 said. Also, the Lyman Trade Rifle has a single trigger whereas the Great Plains rifle has two (one being a set trigger).

Boiling soapy water and a few patches with TC bore butter took me a few minutes to clean my Trade (flint) rifle after the end of this year's deer hunt. They're not as difficult to clean as some people make them out to be.
 
I have both, in .54, bought them both as kits. The Great Plains I use strickly for round ball shoting because of the slow twist, and can it shoot! I'd have to check my notes,but I've hit swinging water bottles at 25 yds,ace of spades at 25 yds, etc. It's finished like an old Hawken & I've had people at the range ask me if it's an "original". The trade gun doesn't look like a Hudson bay trade gun,but it's short, shoots Buffalo bullets well, and well suited to big game hunting within the pratical limits of black powder hunting. I clean them both with hot water & soap, but I've also used hoppes #9. One thing about black powder,there no skipping or putting off the cleaning!
 
There is also 1 lb difference between the 2 rifles. I have the Trade in .54 and shoot round balls out of it. This is the first deer season for it, and it dropped 2 big does, with the ball passing right through both lungs and exiting. Before this rifle I used a Lyman Deerstalker in .50, and it took many whitetails over it's 16 years of use. Clean up takes only a few minutes with hot tap water and dish soap.
 
If you are going to use the gun for hunting in cold weather the Trade rifle with the single trigger is more gloved hand friendly than the GPR with its 2 triggers and smaller area for the gloved trigger finger
 
for my hawken, slower twist rate, but use the usual powder and ball. thank god they invented the hand held shower head with adj. pressure, flush clean using the bathtub. clean up or wife/girlfriend will have a fit. worse than leaving the toilet seat up..lol

the faster twist is for the sabot, and hunting purpose for muzzleloading seasons, the new modern inlines are easier to clean, pyrodex, pellets, etc. and no more effort than smokeless powder guns.

get both kinds of rifles, traditional and modern, you'll never regret it.
 
I have a great plains with peep sights mine is used just to drive holes in paper a comps. and a score of 49 at 100 yds bench rest is not impossible . depends what You want to do with it the trade because of its tighter twist will shoot sabots or conicals and patched round ball but will not shoot the round ball as well as a great plains.
 
You can buy kits or full rifles from the US no problem if in flint. The great plains is a great gun. The lock is not the greatest but accuracy is excellent. A replacement L and R lock can be added to make this a superb factory gun. Factory second rifles are available from LYman for 300$ too
 
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