Lyme Disease Refferal For Treatment

[GOUMFACH]

I bought a new shotgun...I was at the gun counter and the guy handed me this beauty of an over under. I didnt even remember paying for it until my wife yelled at me when I got home. My memory was fuzzy and the life of me I couldn't explain to the her why or where I got it...maybe I have lyme?

( I do take ticks and lyme very very seriously btw)

 

[jimmyjazz]

Did your memory and foggy feeling come and go? I've had weeks where I couldn't remember a thing. I've gotta look into this further.

I felt like I was in a fog all the time when it was in full swing, and the memory would come and go, it was crazy, right in the middle of doing something and then your brain goes blank and you can't remember how..... even though you are fully aware of what you were trying to do that's what was scaring me.
I distinctly remember putting on my shoes and for the life of me I could not remember how to tie my laces just sat there staring at them ???
Stuff like that was on and off, but once I got the meds I was honestly feeling better within a week.

I bought a new shotgun...I was at the gun counter and the guy handed me this beauty of an over under. I didnt even remember paying for it until my wife yelled at me when I got home. My memory was fuzzy and the life of me I couldn't explain to the her why or where I got it...maybe I have lyme?

( I do take ticks and lyme very very seriously btw)

HAHA ... I did try and get out of doing the dishes once, told my wife I couldn't remember how..... it worked the first time.

 

[be2man]

This link to the CDC states that they do not carry lyme disease but does infect with some other fun time disease.

https://www.cdc.gov/stari/disease/

I stand corrected. Nice to have 1 less thing to worry about.


https://www.cdc.gov/ticks/diseases/

 

[canmic]

Ugh the "Test Negative Lyme Disease" issue has come to this forum too??

There are labs, mostly in the USA, which are affiliated with special "Lyme treatment clinics". These "labs" are NOT FDA APPROVED and their tests are NOT FDA APPROVED and EVERYONE tests positive and then they recommend a whole lot of expensive treatments (NOT FDA APPROVED) at their treatment centre... starting to see how this scam works yet?

A handful of doctors in Canada, infectious disease specialists, actually sent samples of their own blood to some of these labs for testing and guess what? THEY ALL CAME BACK POSITIVE. That pretty much is why the doctors in Canada don't believe in the US-Diagnosed Lyme epidemic.

Yes, Lyme exists in Canada and YES the Canadian testing detects it and YES the Canadian treatment is effective. Anyone telling you otherwise is trying to sell you some snake oil and a bogus test and a dangerous and unnecessary treatment.

So, if you might have been exposed and your doctor won't order the test, by all means, go to a different CANADIAN doctor and get the proper CANADIAN test done but if that comes back negative, stop trying to "prove" that it's actually Lyme and start looking for a real diagnosis.

Most often, the people trying the hardest to blame Lyme disease for their symptoms have an undiagnosed psychiatric illness and they don't WANT to have a psychiatric diagnosis and suggesting that they have one makes them mad and want more blood tests...

You can't cure mental illness with antibiotics no matter how badly you want to and how much you try, the best you can hope for is a placebo effect.

 

[RRCo.]

Given that there are several cases in this thread alone of doctors ignoring the well-publicized bulls eye rash, or presumably were not able to recognize it, it might be wise to do a little self-education on a disease that can kill you, slowly and unpleasantly.

Borrelia burgdorferi is a spirochete (like syphilis BTW), when it doesn't like the bodily environment it finds itself it, it burrows, drills if you like, through adjoining cell walls and can stay there dormant for years, only to emerge when the environment has changed. From what I've read, antibiotics are very much a "so-so" treatment because the spirochete cannot be reached by the antibiotics when inside the cells. Have a look at this

There is a therapy that seems to be able to destroy the spirochete anywhere in the body, but you'll need to read the links I posted above.

 

[Can-down]

Ugh the "Test Negative Lyme Disease" issue has come to this forum too??

There are labs, mostly in the USA, which are affiliated with special "Lyme treatment clinics". These "labs" are NOT FDA APPROVED and their tests are NOT FDA APPROVED and EVERYONE tests positive and then they recommend a whole lot of expensive treatments (NOT FDA APPROVED) at their treatment centre... starting to see how this scam works yet?

A handful of doctors in Canada, infectious disease specialists, actually sent samples of their own blood to some of these labs for testing and guess what? THEY ALL CAME BACK POSITIVE. That pretty much is why the doctors in Canada don't believe in the US-Diagnosed Lyme epidemic.

Yes, Lyme exists in Canada and YES the Canadian testing detects it and YES the Canadian treatment is effective. Anyone telling you otherwise is trying to sell you some snake oil and a bogus test and a dangerous and unnecessary treatment.

So, if you might have been exposed and your doctor won't order the test, by all means, go to a different CANADIAN doctor and get the proper CANADIAN test done but if that comes back negative, stop trying to "prove" that it's actually Lyme and start looking for a real diagnosis.

Most often, the people trying the hardest to blame Lyme disease for their symptoms have an undiagnosed psychiatric illness and they don't WANT to have a psychiatric diagnosis and suggesting that they have one makes them mad and want more blood tests...

You can't cure mental illness with antibiotics no matter how badly you want to and how much you try, the best you can hope for is a placebo effect.

It sounds like you work in health care or live with someone that does? Also sounds like you didn't read all the posts.....

Pretty much what I said earlier as far as tests in the US possibly being suspect, but since you seem to know more then most..... can you tell me how many different tests for Lyme exist in Canada? I will also repeat myself and point out that my Partner, after getting back positive results in Sweden came back to Canada where the doctors treated her with much skepticism. They did not trust the Swedish test for some reason and ordered a test of their own which came back negative proving their assertion that Lyme did not exist in B.C. My Partner had tried to explain to them that it is quite likely the tick that infected her was from 10 years previous during a trip to her homeland of Sweden.
A second"wider" test done in Canada came back positive and then suddenly the doctors here reacted like they had just uncovered the first lyme patient in B.C. I'm going to continue to assume you haven't read all the posts above and add/repeat that to be fair to doctors it is hard to diagnose Lyme not only due to poor testing but the symptoms share similarity with mental and other not so well understood diseases. That doesn't mean they should bury their heads in the sand and mumble on about Lyme not existing in B.C.
There was a doctor in Squamish that was looking at Lyme on his on over 30 years ago..... from what I've seen in the Canadian medical community, the gathering, organizing, sharing, and understanding of information around diseases that still evade full comprehension...... is not good!

 

[RRCo.]

There was a doctor in Squamish that was looking at Lyme on his on over 30 years ago..... from what I've seen in the Canadian medical community, the gathering, organizing, sharing, and understanding of information around diseases that still evade full comprehension...... is not good!

"Was" is the operative word: ht tp://www.murakamicentreforlyme.org/About%20Dr%20Murakami.htm

ht tp://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c-doctor-urged-to-retire-because-of-zealous-approach-to-lyme-disease-1.774679

 

[Can-down]

"Was" is the operative word: ht tp://www.murakamicentreforlyme.org/About%20Dr%20Murakami.htm

ht tp://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c-doctor-urged-to-retire-because-of-zealous-approach-to-lyme-disease-1.774679

Was is the operative word, DR Kindree passed many years ago so he is no longer on the case so to speak...... the more important word quoted would be is, as in the current reality......

from what I've seen in the Canadian medical community, the gathering, organizing, sharing, and understanding of information around diseases that still evade full comprehension...... is not good!