I don't think SASS rifles are set up for DMR work.
They can do the job in a pinch, but they aren't set up to reliably bang away all day long.
The M14 is ideally suited to DMR work and can fill the role of SASS if needed.
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M-14 in Afghanistan
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I don't think SASS rifles are set up for DMR work.
They can do the job in a pinch, but they aren't set up to reliably bang away all day long.
The M14 is ideally suited to DMR work and can fill the role of SASS if needed.
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DMR - Designated Marksman Rifle
Banging away all day?
Your Army experience as a DM or Sniper gives you this insight?
The M110 will reliably function all day and night with the ammo load you will be able to put through it.
Yes we had intial fielding troubles due to the painting of the package with the trigger installed (as per contract) this has been corrected.
Units going to Afghan and Iraq are priority for receiving the M110, as a matter of fact I was on the phone with a ARNG unit today about this.
H,
Have a look at the mean rounds between fail and mean rounds between stoppage criteria in the assessment on the contract. The requirement is for it to bang away all day....so I don't think you can argue this on a reliablity issue....
I accept that in your opinion, the M14 is better in the DMR role. I don't agree. I however look at things with a different eye as well as a professional. Parts, maintenance, lifecycle management, and training, all point to having one system. Reliablity and sustainablity are also incredibly important and suggest that one system, supported by the army is the way to go. An adhoc approach as with the M14 is not sustainable.
Dude,
the stock rifles modded from armory have a hard time handling ANYTING over 150 gr without needed gas re-tune and rebarrel....
Far from being appropriate without MAJOR mods...
As thick as it gets...
the stock rifles modded from armory have a hard time handling ANYTING over 150 gr without needed gas re-tune and rebarrel....
Far from being appropriate without MAJOR mods...
As thick as it gets...
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One problem I saw with DMR M-14 is that as already mentioned they are not reliably outfitted.
I've seen cheap ass 1" Chinese scopes added, many with no optics at all, and others who had 1x 20rd mag.
The M-14 is better than nothing - however units that issue it need to get it supported and that is next to impossible.
I love my 5.56mm guns, but adding a 7.62 to the Squad/Section gives you more engagement distance, more penetration for intervening media.
The other issue with the M-14 is it is a visible different gun, and operators of said become targeted.
I've seen cheap ass 1" Chinese scopes added, many with no optics at all, and others who had 1x 20rd mag.
The M-14 is better than nothing - however units that issue it need to get it supported and that is next to impossible.
I love my 5.56mm guns, but adding a 7.62 to the Squad/Section gives you more engagement distance, more penetration for intervening media.
The other issue with the M-14 is it is a visible different gun, and operators of said become targeted.
Your comments are vague to say the least. Why are the M110's not set up to reliably bang away all day?
These are interesting issues, and to me just highlight why the military has different requirements than I do, even as a paranoid survivalist!
I don't worry about supply chain issues. I don't worry about life cycle issues...I have a bunch of these! I can buy whatever optics I want, and I don't care that it's a huge pain in the ass to put an optic on an M14. It doesn't matter to me that I don't appear to have an AR-15. All I want is a rugged, moderately accurate 7.62 rifle that allows reliable hits at intermediate distances, and from that perspective I think the M14 is pretty kickass.
But the best thing for the military is not the best thing for me. They do have the above issues. I can respect that there is a difference between their priorities and mine, doesn't make me think my rifle lacks the abilities I think it has at all. It's what I think it is, which is appropriate for me, but maybe less appropriate for the military.
Maybe some of you should start a thread titled M110 in Afghanistan...
Interpretation = you really don't know what you are talking about.
I just make every attempt to stay on topic.
The topic here is the M14 in Afghanistan.
And now you know what we are talking about
Yes and we are staying on topic:
WWIII has asked you 4 times before why in your opinion the M14 is a better suited rifle in a DMR role in Afghanistan than what the army is now procuring.
The audience is listening unless you are just flappin' your yap.
KPA
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Here is my question in full:
I light of: your redundant opinion on this topic, being that an M14 is a perfectly viable DMR rifle, your lack of substance to that allegatation and the fact that you point out that you have answered WWIII's repeated question.
Using objective facts directly answering this question, please summarize in your words for the audience, why in your opinion the M14 is a better suited rifle in a DMR role in Afghanistan than what the army is now procuring.
How clear is that ??
Run around Sue
KPA
