M-14 question

[booniewolf]

I just recieved my new M-14S and have a couple of questions.First the safety will not move more than an1/8 of an inch.I figure that is not normal.
Second after trying for 3 hours to remove the trigger housing the damn thing will not budge.I followed the instructions in the manual but no go!
Am I doing something wrong or what?

 

[Rule 303]

I just recieved my new M-14S and have a couple of questions.First the safety will not move more than an1/8 of an inch.I figure that is not normal.
Second after trying for 3 hours to remove the trigger housing the damn thing will not budge.I followed the instructions in the manual but no go!
Am I doing something wrong or what?

#### the action before you attempt to apply the safety.

Trigger housing might be affected by the above...should slide out reasonably easily...2009 production?

HTH

 

[carbonrod]

I just recieved my new M-14S and have a couple of questions.First the safety will not move more than an1/8 of an inch.I figure that is not normal.

Did you #### it first?

Second after trying for 3 hours to remove the trigger housing the damn thing will not budge.I followed the instructions in the manual but no go!
Am I doing something wrong or what?

Did you #### it first? Once cocked, find a screwdriver to fit in the hole at the back of the trigger guard to give leverage to open it.

 

[t-star]

open the door on the stock and get out your combo tool- the part that the cleaning rod screws into goes into hole in the trigger guard, and that will give you leverage to open the guard the whole way- then , once the guard is about 90 degrees, you should be able to pull the trigger assembly STRAIGHT OUT - you may have to wiggle it a bit-and you should pull it out TOWARDS YOU i.e. you should be looking at the BOTTOM of the rifle

 

[booniewolf]

Thanks t-star that did the job.I wondered about using that hole for leverage but figured with my luck I would likely bust something!

The safety still will not move but I will give it a good cleaning and see if that will maybe free it up.

 

[Hotwheels81]

My safety is/was really tight as well but it will get better with use... Probably won't notice anything by just cleaning the light machine oil off of it but it's worth a try...

Work it back and forth till it clicks with a rubber screwdriver handle or piece of wood a few dozen times.

 

[J996]

Step 1: Get this book.
Step 2: Throw out norc manual.
Congrats on your new toy, you're gonna love it.

 

[bear.23]

There is a Norc Manual??

 

[Buck45]

There is a Norc Manual??

YUP VERY BASIC... the safety is real stiff. It will loosen after a dozen uses. The 2009 models any heads up info about them...went through the head space section in Main Battle riflesThreads.

 

[t-star]

another trick is to take out your trigger mechanism and work it OUT OF THE GUN- this does 2 things- checks your stock fit and tells you if your safety is working properly- pull the hammer back, put on the safety, take off the safety, cushion the hammer, and pull the trigger- see if that helps- do for a number of cycles- if it's still stiff, put a little lube in there to see if it still does it- chances are it just needs lube and tlc- if there's something wrong with the stock fit( and you wouldn't be the first one) look for a high spot in the stock or where it doesn't quite fit; then file that a little at a time until it does- trial and repeat- a lot of these are either made tight or swell on the trip over-DO NOT TAKE A FILE OR DREMEL to the trigger mechanism to "improve " the fit- chances are you'll get the angles wrong and she'll go full auto on you - that's how critical those surfaces are- now if you're fully experienced like m14doctor or hungry or mystic, then yes;( and they're the ONLY ones i would trust with my trigger) but for us mere mortals ,it's FORBIDDEN GROUND - and not every smith can work on those either

 

[t-star]

There is a Norc Manual??

forget the norc manual and print up a copy of fm23-8- it's on line- just disregard the f/a bits- from what i understand , the "norc manual" is just a copy of this anyway- that should be somewhere in the stickies, or don't you guys read those?

 

[t-star]

remember, the m14 is a battle rifle and is designed cleaned and lubed with everything thats in that buttstock kit- some of the chinese ones don't have the ratchet brush; so if you're going to do a task that requies tools, stop and ask yourself; is there a way to do this with just the tool kit? ; if the answer is no. you've got the wrong approach or idea-you need to ask what's the proper way to do this or what am i doing wrong- remember this is 1950's technology, nothing fancy, and most of it is on the net, either covered in the m14 articles themselves or in the m1 garand articles