M-14b

johnone said:
True we did have some concerns regarding the units that were being made ready, as a result Frank is going over in a week to review our shipment before it leaves the factory.... That way we can deal with our concerns on the spot, in the factory....
John
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So, as I asked in an email to your tracking address, do you have an updated ETA on this shipment?

I'm glad to know it hasn't left the factory defective, however I am a little concerned that it hasn't left the factory at all...

Thanks for any more info you can provide,

Matt
 
johnone said:
sADAM;
"i have one in the post from badger."
I am happy you have found what you need, enjoy it....

"i would just start telling customers that the date is uncertain"
Very interesting, we get hell when we don't update our customers, after all we can only rely on the information provided by the producer....
Now we get hell when the producer keeps providing onward dates.... Oh well....

"and they are welcome to keep waiting or not"
Now that our customers have your permisson I'm certain they feel much better....

"as opposed to repeatedly giving erroneous ETAs two or three months out"
What can we do except forward what we are told.... ?
John
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jeez. no need for the hostility big guy. like i said, i remain a happy customer of marstar's.
i'm in retail as well, and i too have occasionally been horse####ed by crappy info from suppliers. However, they can only fool me once. After that, i consider all their info to be bull#### unless proven otherwise, and i do not forward it to my customers.
 
...so, everyone with a pre order #533 and above just moved up a spot...

oh well...


Kinda depressed about it actually, I was looking forward to these... but almost the same, from another source, this week or next is going to win out over something that hasn't made it in country since.... (looking back at my emails, my pre-order was placed almost exactly 11 months ago, with an expected arrival date of June 2010... lol...)

I'm out... but for those that are still in, I hope they arrive soon for you!

Matt
 
I'll eat my hat if you guys have it before labour day :) There is just too much mystery involved in this order. The date of arrival changes with the seasons, and no one is even willing to tell what the alleged "improvements" are, apparently because this would give the competition an edge somehow.

What about the hundreds of loyal customers waiting over a year? I would have at least told them why it was worth waiting for by now, as a simple courtesy.. and as a thank you for being so patient.

I don't claim to be an international business man or worldly arms dealer, but I do have respect for other people.. especially those who desperately want to give me their money.

I like Marstar. I have bought $1000 of gear in the last 6 months, and been very happy with the service and the products. I have only ever spoken to polite helpful people on the phone. The only issue I have ever had is the lack of reliable info on delivery and product "improvements" with this m14. One day its on the water, next day it is still in the factory. For those who wanted just one more item for the safe.. no problem. For those who wanted something to shoot or hunt with, it is frustratingly similar to the street corner shell game.

If I had known I would be receiving a superior product, I would have maybe waited it out. But having nothing but speculation to go on, I had to jump ship. Good luck to all those waiting.. Please tell us all about the differences in these rifles when they arrive as many of us are very curious. Perhaps I will buy another if the time is right :)

I am gonna go shoot my m14 now.
 
sAdam said:
i called recently. I was told the ETA is now june.

i have one in the post from badger.

no bad feelings towards marstar. i got my sks from them and i love it.
i have no idea how marstar's suppliers portrayed the shipment date to them, but after several delays, i think i would just start telling customers that the date is uncertain, and they are welcome to keep waiting or not. this, as opposed to repeatedly giving erroneous ETAs two or three months out.
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You do know what the "E" in ETA stands for, don't you? :rolleyes:
 
holy crap what a long drawn out thread

krausb said:
You do know what the "E" in ETA stands for, don't you? :rolleyes:
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did you look at when this thread started? estimates that are over a year old are ridiculous this new improved version of the M14 must be spectacular to have people hanging in front of a carrot for over a year wow!!! can't wait to see it :rolleyes:
 
stevey3737 said:
did you look at when this thread started?
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I don't have to look. I'm on the waiting list with a double digit place in line. ;) If I was in some sort of hurry, I would have just gone and bought one somewhere else instead of #####ing and whining in this thread like so many choose to do.

I don't NEED an M-14. I have lots of other guns to shoot and keep myself amused with, so I really don't mind waiting. I suppose if I needed one ASAP for some reason, then I might feel different... ;)

estimates that are over a year old are ridiculous this new improved version of the M14 must be spectacular to have people hanging in front of a carrot for over a year wow!!! can't wait to see it :rolleyes:
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Why do you even care? Seriously. Why? :confused: If you don't want to wait, go buy one somewhere else and move on. Why all the fuss? I don't get it.


Deckard said:
I say it is worth the wait. Look at how the Norinco CQs from others were poorly finished and his were better.
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:agree: Bingo!
 
Thread? What ever happened to real life? You know, it is possible that someone may, just may, have been exposed to some of these guns (gasp) in person and not on the internet... ;) I have personally witnessed noticable differences between CQ-As that were being sold prior to Marstar's hitting the market, and the ones that came from Marstar. So I know exactly what Deckard is referring to.
 
krausb said:
Thread? What ever happened to real life? You know, it is possible that someone may, just may, have been exposed to some of these guns (gasp) in person and not on the internet... ;) I have personally witnessed noticable differences between CQ-As that were being sold prior to Marstar's hitting the market, and the ones that came from Marstar. So I know exactly what Deckard is referring to.
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As I thought. Carry on.

I have looked and fired a number of them from Marstar and various other suppliers. No noticeable differences. There was a hint towards weak springs, but that was never backed up when called on it.
 
Light Infantry said:
As I thought. Carry on.
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Yeah, I guess you're right. Real life experience is no substitute for a good thread with pics... :rolleyes:

I have looked and fired a number of them from Marstar and various other suppliers. No noticeable differences. There was a hint towards weak springs, but that was never backed up when called on it.
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Don't forget that most of the "other suppliers" were selling Marstar CQ-As, once they were available.
 
The older pealing paint CQs are gross. Do a search, and extrapolate that the new M14s will be nicer than usual...or buy from somebody else. Really nobody minds.
 
LIGHTINFANTRY:
"There was a hint towards weak springs, but that was never backed up when called on it. "

Interesting, I thought we covered that a very long time ago....
I will repeat what I said then, because we warranty everything we sell it is far less expensive to remedy any potential issue BEFORE it happens, therefore we do make changes at the factory level....
In the case of the springs for instance, we discovered a possibility of a potential early failure, for a few cents we made changes at the factory.... Had we waited and delivered these rifles we could have experienced some failures, that means shipping rifles back and forth across the country, that gets expensive and gets customers upset.

I do beleive that we are the only company in Canada that sends someone over to the various factories on a regular basis, correct me if I am wrong ?
John
 
No John

You never covered it. At all. In fact I asked you to answer my question(s) on numerous occasions and at best you answered with ambiguity.

Your last response:

LIGHT INFANTRY;
"Can you clarify"
While I certainly welcome your interest in our products and procedures I am very reluctant to discuss our internal workings....

"those concerns were cleared up you purchased a quantity of rifles?"
Yes you are correct....However it was a Little more involved than that....
In as much that Marstar garantees each and every item that we sell we have to be ever so carefull of everything we buy.... When we have concerns, whether minor or major we prefer to clear them up BEFORE the fact rather than attempt to address the issue once the products are in the customers hands....

"So then, are your rifles different?"
To answer your question simply, yes they are....

Please understand that because other importer/dealers may not be as demanding as we are and may or may not offer the same warranty policy they are sometimes prepared to accept product made to different standard.... This is not to say that the product is inferior in any way, but rather it would not meet OUR DEMANDING STANDARDS.

When we discover an issue or a QC problem we want id fixed or remedied before we accept delivery, do we make public the issues in question, certainly not.... Why should we assist other retailers who don't wish to put in the extra effort.... ?

I hope I have answered your questions
John

So no you did NOT cover this off a "very long time ago."

for those that are interested to read my very basic and direct questions, start at about post #362 of this thread:
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4542934#post4542934

However, despite my questions, and your possible assumption, I do still buy from you (just not the M-4, which in the end i bought somewhere else due to your complete lack of proper response, and have been completely satisfied), and quite a bit, I must say.

Good luck in your retirement, I will truly miss all the drama.:D
 
Well I guess you missed the second part of my post, as well it seems that you also missed that same part that you quoted just below in your statement where i mention that i have handled and shot a number of them. Is it comprehension that you lack or something more serious?



krausb said:
Yeah, I guess you're right. Real life experience is no substitute for a good thread with pics... :rolleyes:



Don't forget that most of the "other suppliers" were selling Marstar CQ-As, once they were available.
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krausb said:
I don't have to look. I'm on the waiting list with a double digit place in line. ;) If I was in some sort of hurry, I would have just gone and bought one somewhere else instead of #####ing and whining in this thread like so many choose to do.

I don't NEED an M-14. I have lots of other guns to shoot and keep myself amused with, so I really don't mind waiting. I suppose if I needed one ASAP for some reason, then I might feel different... ;)



Why do you even care? Seriously. Why? :confused: If you don't want to wait, go buy one somewhere else and move on. Why all the fuss? I don't get it.




:agree: Bingo!
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Same here! If i needed a M14 so bad, i would have bought 1 somewhere else but no, i wait patiently and i got plenty of rifles to enjoy for now.:)
 
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