m 14s adjustable cheek rest

When I have been attacted by Skullboy on a number of boards his claim has been proven Unfounded.

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Just to keep the record straight, it was one forum (The M14 Firing Line)...............and my claim is not unfounded...............I have dated pics of the first generation Rooster33 cheekrest from at least 2003.....................and dated pics of the second generation cheekrest which I helped to refine................

SKBY.
 
Not an Issue with you or anyone else....I was pointing out a diffenence between an Exact Knock Off.

When I have been attacted by Skullboy on a number of boards his claim has been proven Unfounded.

This was Skullboy's chance to get even and the PM's were heard as such...Your Note Welcome and I will Delete/Edit your posts...which he did even before I received the PM.

I will be as Professional as those on the board and if Skullboy and Rooster33 are what things are measured by I will take your remarks and add them to the same company.

Lotta attitude up North.


Sorry you felt that way Karsten. I can tell you from watching the Board that Skullboy is very even handed in his approach to dealers pushing there items on the board. He will shut down anyone who does it and has turfed several other folks in the past for not playing by the rules (apparently you just got added to the list). It is not attitude but the rules.

Anyways It's to bad you have decided not to sell to Canada anymore as your products looked very good. :(
 
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The Great Cheekrest Controversy.......

I did some research on the M14 Firing line and found this informative post by one of the admin there in regards to the the originator of the Adjustable cheekrest in question.

It appears that Karsten has been banned/removed there for accusing others of copying "His" design, and Claims the Rooster33 Design is his own.............:rolleyes:

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A note concerning cheek rests
It has come to our attention that two of our forum sponsors have come under attack for allegedly copying the cheek rest design of Karsten's Custom Camo. The accusation from none other than Karsten himself on at least two "Other" forums.

We don't have specific dates, but in discussion with the oldest staff members here who have been around through all of the three cheek rest debuts, we have all agreed on the following history/time line as we know it here on TFL concerning the type cheek rest that is in controversy.

The first to introduce a cheek rest of this type was none other than Rooster33 who at the time was a forum sponsor here.

Second, along came Karsten with a replication of the same type design. There was some controversy surrounding Karsten's design, however not to the magnitude that the current design is receiving.

Third came the current controversial replication of Rooster33's design. (of which Karsten now claims as his) This design replication is by Dessert Warrior Products. This newest controversy has Karsten claiming that our own LAW483 has sold Karsten's idea to DWP with no proof to offer only his opinions. Law483 on the other hand has come up with his own proof in his defense of a time line of which DWP came out with the cheek rest sometime around January of this year and his own original e-mail to DWP during the month of March.

The one thing that we have to take into consideration in all this is the source of the controversy. Karsten.

Karsten seems to thrive on controversy as is evident if one just looks around on the different gun boards. Does he make a good product? Sure. Our banning him here from our forum in no way reflects on his skills as an artist or manufacturer of cheek rests. It had to do with his seemingly inability to avoid controversy. Karsten was banned from this board, by request I might add, after his posting privileges were suspended due to his reluctance to adhere to our forum ROEs.

As for LAW483 and Desert Warrior Products, we have no reservations in recommending either one of them to do business with. Their reputations are solid as far as we are concerned. If they weren't, they would be dropped as sponsors in a heartbeat.

We here on the staff are confident that whomever of the current cheek rest manufacturers, suppliers, that you may do business with, you won't be disappointed.

Let's please put the current controversy to rest.
So you can be your own judge in this story and decide what's what and who is telling the truth.

Thx. SKBY.
 
My God ....

Is he (Karsten) "STILL" whining about this crap ....
I am co-admin at The Firing Line and altho we "bent over backwards"
to help this man out he still continued with his stubborn streak there
to the point where his posting priviledgses were suspended ....

We actually did him a favor supplying him with a FREE ad to maintain
selling his products even tho he could not speak there .... No cost to him.


Then one day ...out of the blue he emailed me to ask that he be removed TOTALLY from that board ... so we simply honored his request. To bad as he had some nice stuff and did some good work but his attitude is really something and he just does not know when to let it go and carry on ....

There is plenty of cutomers and enough producing the product to where everyone could be happy and satisfied .... The K .... he is something else and brings all this on himself and always has through the many years that I have known him ....

Have a great day Cannuks and stay safe ...

Six
 
My God ....

Is he (Karsten) "STILL" whining about this crap ....
I am co-admin at The Firing Line and altho we "bent over backwards"
to help this man out he still continued with his stubborn streak there
to the point where his posting priviledgses were suspended ....

We actually did him a favor supplying him with a FREE ad to maintain
selling his products even tho he could not speak there .... No cost to him.


Then one day ...out of the blue he emailed me to ask that he be removed TOTALLY from that board ... so we simply honored his request. To bad as he had some nice stuff and did some good work but his attitude is really something and he just does not know when to let it go and carry on ....

There is plenty of cutomers and enough producing the product to where everyone could be happy and satisfied .... The K .... he is something else and brings all this on himself and always has through the many years that I have known him ....

Have a great day Cannuks and stay safe ...

Six

Six, Thank you for stopping by and sharing your views with us.:D :wave:

You will see out Battle Rifle Forum has grown, along with the number of M14 owners since you last stopped by.:D

Cheers, SKBY.
 
WOW
this thread was an interesting read :D
I too received a message from admin some time ago regarding my advertising of my products on the site...... I was puzzled at first.... a little miffed about it.... as I wasn't really selling as a dealer or not intentionally anyways.......
Site policies were explained to me, and due to an AGREEABLE understanding.... based on me respecting site rules..... I have been very careful not to shake the tree so to speak. This has led to an AGREEABLE situation that has allowed me to utilize the EE in a "site friendly" manner. Soon I will be a dealer on the site.... and I have no issues with the rules.... and neither should karsen. I deal with many U.S. sources for many diffferent items..... if one gets on a high horse and doesn't want to ship here..... oh well, another will fill thier shoes. Buy from DWP..... rooster isn't making stuff anymore that i am aware of. The basic dealer fee is very reasonable..... I imagin 10 of those chekrests at the price they sell at would easily cover this fee...... including cost to make product.
Don't sweat it Skullboy..... the guy just doesn't get it..... and prolly never will. Gee...... maybe i should start pumpin out cheekrests..... would be a snap really :D :D :D :D
 
After talking with SixTgunr about this thread, I figured it was time to drop everything and stop by to say hello.

It's a shame that this is still going on after 5 plus years.....amazing:popCorn:

Thanks, Hawk
 
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