M+M CEO Considered Pulling M10X Rifle From Canada After Brouhaha - CDN Gun Blog
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I see they changed from Early February 2018 delivery to Early 2018. Hopefully well see some by end of feb.
You'll notice that there no harmony between upper and lower, it seems like they took parts from 2 different rifles and joined them together.
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I’m ok with the early 18 timeline I need time to recoup from the mags I’ve bought. I’m in no panic to try it.
I’m also ok with the looks of it from the pictures and vids I’ve seen so far.
The price is what it is and I’m willing to pay.
If it’s junk that’s m+ms problem they will loose the most. I’ll survive.
Mike has made some epic bad choices with the dmr Jazz and the gunblog bit.
From the vids and reviews it’s a solid gun and has had a few years of proven use.
I’ve wanted it because I have a mutant which I can only take to the range and a valmet which I won’t be taking anywhere so I’ve amassed a few ak mags and the m10x will help me get some use out of them.
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plz and thank you
Yes, the lower is quite thin and "feels" cheap when compared to the upper. Didn't wiggle or dent tho so I suppose it's adequate for the task.
Stamped AKMS Receivers are 1mm thick sheet metal if you want to talk about thin and flimsy. Yet mine seems to be plenty durable even if it did flex and twist when being fired all those years ago. That's simply what real AKs do. That said, only the lower receiver containing the no-stress trigger mechanism makes use of stamped sheet metal on the M10X. The upper receiver which absorbs all of the firing stresses and determines accuracy is machined steel on the M10X, with an extruded aluminum dust cover. It will be much stiffer, more durable and more accurate than any AKM receiver.
Gratuitous pic of my Russian 1977 AKMS - just because....
Gratuitous pic of my Russian 1977 AKMS - just because....
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Stamped AKMS Receivers are 1mm thick sheet metal if you want to talk about thin and flimsy. Yet mine seems to be plenty durable even if it did flex and twist when being fired all those years ago. That's simply what real AKs do. That said, only the lower receiver containing the no-stress trigger mechanism makes use of stamped sheet metal on the M10X. The upper receiver which absorbs all of the firing stresses and determines accuracy is machined steel on the M10X, with an extruded aluminum dust cover. It will be much stiffer, more durable and more accurate than any AKM receiver.
Gratuitous pic of my Russian 1977 AKMS - just because....
Dang, that's a beaut!
I'm sorry you were offended by my post on this discussion forum, but I didn't call you any names and will sleep well tonight. Have a great experience when you get your new rifle.
It's the DMR version, meant for slow deliberate fire. If you fire once every 45 seconds like a bench shooter, it will even outperform an SKS in a tapco plastic chassis.
My VZ58 used to burn my hands pretty quick...
If the Canadian m10x ends up being a pile of... Ill be the first to say so.
Stamped AKMS Receivers are 1mm thick sheet metal if you want to talk about thin and flimsy. Yet mine seems to be plenty durable even if it did flex and twist when being fired all those years ago. That's simply what real AKs do. That said, only the lower receiver containing the no-stress trigger mechanism makes use of stamped sheet metal on the M10X. The upper receiver which absorbs all of the firing stresses and determines accuracy is machined steel on the M10X, with an extruded aluminum dust cover. It will be much stiffer, more durable and more accurate than any AKM receiver.
Gratuitous pic of my Russian 1977 AKMS - just because....
Stamped AKMS Receivers are 1mm thick sheet metal if you want to talk about thin and flimsy. Yet mine seems to be plenty durable even if it did flex and twist when being fired all those years ago. That's simply what real AKs do. That said, only the lower receiver containing the no-stress trigger mechanism makes use of stamped sheet metal on the M10X. The upper receiver which absorbs all of the firing stresses and determines accuracy is machined steel on the M10X, with an extruded aluminum dust cover. It will be much stiffer, more durable and more accurate than any AKM receiver.
Gratuitous pic of my Russian 1977 AKMS - just because....
Beautiful rifle. Very familiar with AKs - more than most here.
Having actually shot the M10X back to back with a bunch of different AKs (mostly stamped, but there was a beautiful one from Rifle Dynamics as well) and ARs I still maintain that the stamped lower on the M10X feels cheap and flimsy. Like pot metal airsoft cheap. When you get yours do perform a comparison and post up your observations.
For me, it was just as accurate as the other AKs we shot. Good combat accuracy but he Rifle Dynamics AK was head and shoulders above this one. Too bad we can’t get it here.
It is a 12 (3) Converted Auto, brought into Canada in the 1980s. The story goes that it was a Israeli capture gun destined for the PLO ( hence the mint condition), that was sold as surplus to SIDEM Company in the UK for conversion and resale in Canada pre-C68 and C-15. It was a great shooter back in the day...."sigh"......
But... It was so much fun with the T81.
To be frank, it's a USA made gun that will be regularly stocked anywhere. Right now my previous order appetite for anything is pretty low/jaded. It's not like I trust NS anymore than I do TI.
I wouldn't get too fussed about the M10X pre-order. Unlike the T81s that were "hand-crafted" to third-world standards on an unpredictable Chinese production timelime, the M10X is a US-manufactured rifle built on CNC tooling to US standards. With slow-rate production ongoing and rifles in the US garnering very positive reviews, there is little to be concerned about regarding the eventual build quality of the Canadian M10X variant.
Nobody likes to park a deposit with a pre-order these days, especially with the ongoing T81 fiasco characterized by years-long delays and questionable build quality. That said, this appears to be the only means by which Canadian retailers can accurately gauge firm interest in their wares, schedule production, and so forth. It sucks, but pre-orders appear to be an unavoidable fixture of the comparatively tiny Canadian firearms industry - for now. At least the M10X pre-order is only a $200 refundable deposit and not full retail price like the T81 or the BCL 102, where production is fully financed by pre-orders. A 10% deposit doesn't seem to be too far out of line to secure one of the Canadian variant M10X rifles.
If you don't like the pre-order there is always the option of a 3rd party import of a restricted US variant M10X. That option is available right now, whereas some of the M10X haters are still eagerly awaiting the initial arrival of their pre-paid T81s. Apparently the bent receivers are a no-cost upgrade for having waited 2 years for delivery. Ahhh, sweet irony..... ��
